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[ { "content": "well as much as i'd uh i'd like to say that i'll be looking for a flashy convertible or a or a four by four or something i guess the next car i'll be looking for is a kind of a plain old four door [laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter] what kind of car do you have now", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh we've got a uh an older Delta Eighty Eight and then uh our our newer car is a uh a Corsica and uh we'll probably be looking for something about that uh that same style that same kind of four door hard top style and", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah yeah you got kids", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh no but we're planning for it so uh in fact uh our Oldsmobile is a is a like an old Delta Eighty Eight but it's in pretty good sh[ape]- it's in really good shape and we've been really pleased with Oldsmobiles that's probably where the first place we'd look", "role": "user" }, { "content": "okay yeah yeah huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "but uh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well we've always had uh Fords uh mostly because my wife's stepfather works at a [laughter-Ford] dealership", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh that'll do it", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah that'll do it um but yeah we're we're in the same shape i think our next car will be a you know some big old four door uh something that can haul the kids to baseball practice and piano lessons and we've got a minivan", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yep uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and that's great and i d[rive]- i drive uh well i used to drive an Escort but it died on me so i i mean i- i- i used to run it i uh where we used to live i used to commute a hundred and forty miles a day", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter] oh jeez", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and uh and this Escort took it all and its it it got up to uh uh i was at ninety four thousand miles on it and the engine just went", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "so i- i b[ought]- i bought a used um Dodge Aries", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "which has been okay i- i mean i haven't had it that long but it it'll it's an eighty five Aries but it only had thirty four thousand miles on it when i bought it", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "really um-hum oh jeez", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and i just you know i just drive it to work so it's just a ten minute commute everyday", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "so um [laughter-it] doesn't get much of uh i mean it's not like i'm putting it through its paces but i think uh and it's a four door which is nice but it's still a little cramped i've got three kids", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah yeah um-hum yeah yeah sounds like you you need at least like a Taurus size or something like that", "role": "user" }, { "content": "so i- i yeah that's what i was thinking of was a Taurus um", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah i- i kn[ow]- i know a lot of the guys at work they uh the ones that have uh families uh and they still want kind of a sports car they've been uh a lot of them_1 been getting these uh Taurus SHOs that i guess it's the sport version of the Taurus in fact it comes with a standard stick and uh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh really yeah ooh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and a lot of those it comes with a bigger engine and the things like that but uh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and usually they're in like black and gun metal grey and and those kind of colors you're not gonna see too many uh you know green ones or blue ones or anything like that they they put them_1 in sporty colors i guess but uh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter] yeah yeah well my wife wants a Miata", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh well sure [laughter] that's what you know until till you look at the price tag and then you go what what would i r[eally]- besides tooling around and looking really cool and having a lot of fun what would i really do with this car if it what", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter] right right yeah i know i know it's like i- i guess i could fit in it [laughter] maybe", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": " yeah i i went i went through that when i first got out of uh college i had an old car that i bought just to get to to my j[ob]- my first job", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and when i got there the first thing i did was trade it in on a Spitfire and i- i knew that was gonna be the only time i could afford a two seater uh sports car", "role": "user" }, { "content": "no yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "but that that just does not make it as an only car it's uh it's like i b[ought]- i would i bought a set of stereo speakers", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter] yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and it was one of those cash and carry deals and i had to take them_1 one at a time with the top down", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and it was winter so i was like in this coat with the top down and the speaker in the passenger seat", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh no [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and i drove that one home and then i went back and got the other one and put that in the passenger seat and drove that one home", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and uh funny funniest sight and you kind of outgrow that real quick when it's your only car", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah yeah well i you know it's funny most people that i've talked to did stuff like that when they were in college or you know or when they were single anyway they'd they'd buy themselves a sporty car because it was their la[st]- i never did that uh you know my first car was a Toyota Corolla", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum yeah oh really", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and uh because i got a good deal on it and uh that was a great little car actually", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i met that's how i met girls was i'd find out if a girl could drive a manual transmission which i i'd never i i'd learned on an automatic transmission and so so i'd go out on dates where they would teach me how to drive this car", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh boy that's a good deal", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and uh in fact i married one of those [laughter-people] and it worked yeah it worked all right real good", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "ah okay well i'll have to remember that if i ever get in that [laughter-situation] [laughter-again] huh because_1 i- i know we've uh that's that's something that that we definitely have to go with is an automatic transmission my um my wife just does can't can't can't uh she doesn't really wanna learn i guess the uh the standard shift in fact i- i remember once we uh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "we uh went uh went on a uh test drive we got one of these things from Lee Iacocca that said you know i'll give you a fifty dollar savings bond if you'll test drive a car and we went uh we went uh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "we went to a dealership and uh i[t]- it was it was pretty sh[e]- she did pretty well but it was one of these things where we just went to a big parking lot and the uh dealer kind of gave her standard shift parking because_1 that's all it was it was it was the funniest thing it was like a", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah [laughter] [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "a big Le Bar[on]- i[t]- was a Le Baron with everything on it but it had a standard shift it was the craziest thing i ever saw and and and that's probably why they were trying to sell them_1 i guess", "role": "user" }, { "content": "wow that's weird yeah huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and uh we just kind of went back and forth and back and forth she did pretty well after a while but uh it's it's kind of hard to learn i guess", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah well my wife i mean she'd always driven standard transmission and uh an[d]- and in fact all our earlier cars were s[tandard]- a standard transmission in fact the minivan's a has a stick shift", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum okay_1", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and in f[act]- this Dodge Aries is the first car we've ever gotten that had anything you know it's got automatic transmission cruise control you know electric locks you know it's like it's like a luxury car except that it's the Dodge [laughter-Aries] [laughter-you] [laughter-know] so uh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh jeez yeah yeah what the oh well well i guess that i guess that's about all i got to say [laughter-about] cars", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter] well [vocalized-noise] um the the thing about this uh the i will say this about the minivan", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "we thought that was a luxury car when we bought it it it", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh i would think so yeah because_1 it's so big", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah and and it was quiet it had a stereo system we never had it you know we always had the AM radio and uh cour[se]- this had stick shift it had s[peakers]- speakers that you can control from the backseat", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh yeah sure sure um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and you can change the channels on the on the radio from the backseat too and put s[peaker]- speaker phones in it so uh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh now now now that used to be a luxury but i bet on the next time you buy a car that's gonna be mandatory [vocalized-noise] you've got to have that now you're used to it and you got to have it", "role": "user" }, { "content": "right that's right that's right and you got to pay for it too and i bet and i bet it costs twice as much as as when i bought mine [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah that's [laughter-true] [laughter-too] it [laughter] probably does it probably does but uh oh well well Bill it's been nice talking to you okay you have a good evening um-hum bye-bye", "role": "user" }, { "content": "we[ll]- nice talking to you thanks a lot bye bye", "role": "assistant" } ]
[ { "content": "okay Art you say you own a TI or you own a uh an IBM compatible", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh yeah i have one of these little Zenith laptops which uh the uh everybody here at school has to buy one", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh you're in school", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh yeah i'm a student uh at at Harvard Business School", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and uh tremendously useful thing it's uh the the portability and the compactness of it are uh pretty nice it's uh you know enough that you can kind of throw it in a briefcase or uh slap it over your shoulder and carry it around", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "wha[t]- what do you use to to download into the system can you p[ut]- hook up a a floppy to it", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh it's got an internal three and a half inch floppy", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh it's built in", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah and uh it also has a forty megabyte hard drive built in", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh that's pretty good um", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and uh you know the batteries carry it for at least four or five hours", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and so you know i use it um both in school to do uh spreadsheet analysis for various uh businesses that we're studying and also uh you know it hooks up to normal printers and what have you and uh works pretty well in that mode as well", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i'm i'm curious what you use your uh your home computer for", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh i do i do uh word processing on it primarily uh the main reason why i'm i'm hanging on to it is because of the business that i'm in the the home computer business i have a", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "a store in my house where i've got the uh the hardware and the software and i also do repair work on the system if if i started using a different computer at home then i wouldn't be using the the software and the hardware and it would be that much more difficult for me to try and market it the the product", "role": "user" }, { "content": "does it does it cause a problem for you to use a different computer at work than you use at home", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh oddly enough no uh because i do different things with it at home i i do mostly play and at work i do mostly work uh it's [laughter] you know you you you can put a game on an IBM compatible computer uh but uh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "you know i i don't normally do that at at work uh and i i typically deal with uh Lotus uh WordPerfect which is a spreadsheet", "role": "user" }, { "content": "right", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and uh we also have a tie in to a mainframe out in in Dallas Texas", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and the mainframe has a lot of uh software out there where i use to interface my computer with", "role": "user" }, { "content": "are are you at the point where the the mainframe appears slow to you relative to your personal computer given the the ratio", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "no um there was at one point in time where where it was continually down it it appears at though whenever i wanted to use it it wasn't working and this was about", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "seven ten years ago", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and they made a dramatic effort of trying to reduce down time down to nothing and today uh i can't say that i can remember the last time it went down uh several months it's it's just up all the time now they take it down like on Sunday nights like for a couple of hours to do maintenance or whatever but uh unless there's something dramatic that happens with the telephone system uh usually doesn't break down and i think what they're doing is they're using satellite somehow", "role": "user" }, { "content": "that's", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "to uh to transmit the signals to have a backup some to back that that system up so that there is no no down time", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum you you don't think that they went and did a uh what is it an Ishihara uh quality analysis", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "analysis [laughter] i don't i don't know how they fixed the problem but they're uh you know the whole theme of of what they were doing was was to measure and record and and uh reduce down time", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and the other big thing is uh quality satisfaction or customer satisfaction", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "how do how do the users feel about the the system and what are their likes and dislikes and that's that's uh that's where they they were heading and uh the system is fantastic so it's it's not slow if anything the the PC is now slower than the mainframe", "role": "user" }, { "content": "that", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[vocalized-noise] we're transmitting from from uh New England to Dallas Texas and i'm getting responses in in split seconds", "role": "user" }, { "content": "that's tremendous are are your computers at work net uh networked at all or is that", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah oh well that that's another system that i link in to i i network internally to Texas Instruments in Attleboro", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and use the mainframe for corporation uh type programs like payroll and uh financial data bases and we also have uh uh a message system which is a worldwide network within within the corporation", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "where i can send telegrams to any TI site and they've also hooked up to some company to allow us to do E-mail and allow it to convert it", "role": "user" }, { "content": "huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "to other companies so that th[e]- other companies can recognize our E-mail and now we're getting into faxes as well right off the PC", "role": "user" }, { "content": "that's tremendous", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah that's uh the technology is really [laughter] really blow you know going going crazy with this", "role": "user" }, { "content": "it's clearly a uh a uh productivity enhancement uh device and allows you to do", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh originally i didn't think it was i thought that what ended you know we ended up doing was uh doing all of the secretarial work and the secretaries had nothing to do uh and and that i guess part of that is true [laughter] uh i do all my own typing i i i don't give anymore uh paper to the secretary to type up only because it takes me longer to write it and redo it and then give it back to her again than it does for me to sit down and and do it and correct it myself i i i am not a typist i type with two fingers but i do very well at it and uh i i do everything i do my only typing do my own foils uh it's just you know it's just so much easier for me to do that", "role": "user" }, { "content": "that that's been my experience also i've actually i guess i've been doing that since probably when i was in high school", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "many years ago and uh uh it it it's gotten to the point now i think where the uh secretaries are are finding other jobs to do because you know the typing and to some extent the filing is just not there anymore", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah and", "role": "user" }, { "content": "big paper files are disappearing", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "the the files may be disappearing but the secretaries are not the the people people in power are are afraid to give up that status symbol", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and uh although what they're doing now is is they're maintaining secretaries but they're piling more and more people onto that one secretary rather than get rid of the secretary [laughter] they're they're just you know they're finding justification by adding more people to her", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i guess there's there's a fear that one day if the computers ever stopped working there'd be a bunch of people staring at the typewriter with no idea what to do with it", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "well i don't know like back in in my particular office there must be at least uh twenty twenty five people one secretary no typewriter it's all computers everybody's got a a PC sitting in front of their desk ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "huh do you uh if if i assume you all are networked to a a variety of of laser printers", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh uh i i have a laser printer i have access to a laser printer in my office but i don't have one tied in to my system yet uh i'm i'm networked into it but it's so inconvenient for me to to", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "to run all the way downstairs that [laughter] that i don't use it", "role": "user" }, { "content": "huh because what i was what i was going to ask you is it seems like the next big jump will come with color printing you were talking about doing your own presentation and foils it would seem that color capability would be the next big sort of leap in presentation", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah well i think what i see is a different direction i don't know if you are you familiar with uh programs like Harvard Graphics where they have uh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh like a print shop or or a thing in the system well we have uh instead of using view view foil machines we have uh a transmitter that will pick up the signal from the the monitor", "role": "user" }, { "content": "right", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and and transmit it just like a view foil", "role": "user" }, { "content": "huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "so we we do that somewhat uh we also have uh teleconferencing where we have", "role": "user" }, { "content": "a", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um the the mainframe as being the monitor in other words if you've got foils you pull it out of the mainframe and then use the telephone speaker system to communicate with", "role": "user" }, { "content": "wow", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and and we use uh we do teleconferencing that way so that that everybody's looking at the same foil because we're pulling it off the network", "role": "user" }, { "content": "interesting yeah that's uh that's uh pretty powerful set of tools to give to people who traditionally have had to go through a whole production process just to get the [vocalized-noise]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh yeah i can remember at one time the the uh secretaries actually had to be artists and [laughter] and technicians and today uh with the laser printer they're uh really not being utilized as much as they had been in the past i'm making some really pretty foils that uh four or five years ago i wouldn't have ever dreamed i could be doing them and it's it's so easy to do uh with the with the programs that are out there now", "role": "user" }, { "content": "huh well uh Frank i think i kind of need to get back to some other things so i i hope we've talked uh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "all right okay i believe we have", "role": "user" }, { "content": "covered enough of of this for for what this is all about", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "okay nice talking to you", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah it was a pleasure", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "take it easy", "role": "user" }, { "content": "thank you bye", "role": "assistant" } ]
[ { "content": " okay who do you like [laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "ok[ay]- [laughter] what kind do i like i like just about any kind except country and western", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah that same with me same with me", "role": "user" }, { "content": "it it's course country and western even i've gotten a little bit used to because it's not like it used to be", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": " uh-huh like Clint Black he's pretty good and who's the other big guy", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well in Oklahoma we say Garth Brooks [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "Garth Brooks yeah that yeah that's the other guy i was thinking of was Garth Brooks yeah fact i think both of them have performed here and Kenny Rogers he's kind of country western verge you know on the verge of country western", "role": "user" }, { "content": "right course Garth Brooks lives about uh you know his his home town is about uh fifteen minutes away", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh wonderful", "role": "user" }, { "content": "so he is he's a home boy [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "well then of course you like him that's great so well i have teenage children and so you know i'm hear the the rock music not the hard rock but the you know Michael Bolton type stuff he he's my personal favorite", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh my son is uh twenty eight so but he he's real unusual in that uh he likes a little bit of every kind he likes jazz", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh that's good", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and uh blues and and course the rock", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i i can't say he's real crazy about elevator music as he calls it", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "no no what i don't i don't th[ink]- actually we don't listen to any elevator music at my house but i've got teenagers so", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well my teenagers are all gone i can listen to any [laughter-music] [laughter-i] [laughter-want] [laughter-to]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah that's good i actually when i'm home alone which isn't too often but uh our public radio station has wonderful classical music it's just very wonderful soothing and you know uh a lot of symphonies and i just i love that that's probably my all time favorite", "role": "user" }, { "content": "you know uh i i teach", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "hm", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and we can have music in the classroom but it you know it can't be the rock or anything like that and i i find that the classical music is very good for the kids too", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "right", "role": "user" }, { "content": "it doesn't disturb them_1 and yet it it's it stimulates them_1 an[d]- and", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "right relax yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and uh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "what do you teach what grade", "role": "user" }, { "content": " well it's ninth nine through twelve", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "good for you", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and well it's uh business technology", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "a certain subject good for you", "role": "user" }, { "content": "but uh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i was just sitting here while she was trying to find a a another caller uh i was reading my [vocalized-noise] my husband and i are taking a computer class at our junior college [laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": " oh boy", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah it's pretty good it's just a real basic class but we're learning a lot and we have a home computer so it's it's very interesting", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh yeah i'd learn it too uh back to i guess we'd better get back to music though [laughter] i uh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah the subject of music [laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "do you play any instruments", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i play i play piano i took lessons for thirteen years and right now my nine year old is taking piano and i just got a whole mess of music i i play the volunteered to play the piano at the children's Christmas program for the whole grade school which is K through six", "role": "user" }, { "content": "ooh you took on a good job", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "five hundred kids [laughter] i did it last year and and um i s[ub]- i just sub at the school i don't wanna work full time so i just sub at the school and that's kind of my volunteer thing so that it's it's really neat and my older daughter plays the saxophone my next son plays the drums and my third son just started baritone this year and my little girl will start French horn next year so", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh well my son played the sax and drums my daughter the piano organ and French horn", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[vocalized-noise]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "so", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "French horn is absolutely wonderful instrument it's just my favorite course that's what i played and so i'm pushing that on my daughter because i wanna play in our city band not the symphony we just the city band once we get the F[rench]- the French horn and i get a little bit more time right now i'm busy chasing my kids", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh okay [vocalized-noise] yes sounds like you've got a houseful", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter] i do i do i love it but we have a a marvelous band instructor and and he just he's wonderful we have couple of hundred kids in the band our junior high band is just wonderful h[e]- lot of and then their concert band and then he has a jazz band that my older daughter was in and my son will be in next year that's i mean they ca[n]- play college level music in junior high he's that good of an instructor and the kids just love him", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh that's a oh that's wonderful i i have totally totally a tin ear ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "so it's really good it is wonderful oh do you [laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and i love music i cannot carry a tune in a basket", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh [laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i know what i like a[nd]- but i you know and i love to listen to it and i love to sing", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and i my kids when i was little and they were little and i was rocking them singing to them_1 they'd say", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "user" } ]
[ { "content": "okay would you like to um begin or would you like me to start", "role": "user" }, { "content": " uh oh i can start i i think one of the the biggest uh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "okay", "role": "user" }, { "content": "improvements in women is that finally you're starting to see them_1 get into uh management", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yes", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and you're seeing them_1 uh get uh elected to uh political offices uh not near enough i know there's still a long way to go especially in top management", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": " hm um-hum yes i agree", "role": "user" }, { "content": "you're not seeing uh you know looking at TI you see them_1 in management but you're not seeing them_1 up there as VPs and i have a sister that's an attorney in Oklahoma City and i know the company that she was with", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "right", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh the women didn't h[ave]- have near the positions the levels that the men attorneys had and were not uh given the same respect", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "right i agree with that i- i think you do see more and more women out there in politics too as mayors or um you know in in helping to maybe um get some legislation passed to to have women have more rights i think still", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yes", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "even with that whole um thing with Judge Thomas and and um you you still felt like the woman was the one that you would maybe discredit first before the man or something the way they had it the trial and um i just think that it's it's still gonna take another generation or so before before the women", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "really could really feel that they're really equal in the business world or that they work just as hard or harder [laughter] um", "role": "user" }, { "content": "right right", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "but it's still um going from hm from homemakers into um corporate leaders is still a big step", "role": "user" }, { "content": "right i also think that uh uh women as homemakers are beginning to get more respect than they used to be it used to be people would say do you work and you'd say no i work in the home and it was it was then it was almost like a put down particularly particularly even by women in the work force", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "right", "role": "user" }, { "content": "but i think now i think people are realizing that the roles women play in the home are very very important and it's getting the respect and which is about time", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yes i think it's true i think also people are having children at a older age so maybe like um you know you go through college and then you maybe work for a few years and then you have your first child", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yes very definitely", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and um you know you you know both sides of the coin", "role": "user" }, { "content": "that's right", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "you know what it's like and how much work it takes to keep the house running smoothly and to take care of the kids and and then uh maybe people that are just working and think oh you just stay at home but then when they're in their thirties and have their first and second kid it's like", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "they lose it [laughter] they say wow this is harder than i thought well hm [laughter] [laughter-you] [laughter-know]", "role": "user" }, { "content": " [laughter-right] [laughter] [laughter] [laughter-yes] and and and to those that have never w[orked]- worked and had you know and have stayed home with the kids kind of does your heart good [laughter] because i know i stayed home with mine and didn't start working until mine were in high school and uh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i know it [laughter] i know um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "so you know it it kind of does me good i think also one of the things that that's really tremendous and it doesn't necessarily have to do with women but the fact that the fathers are so involved with families which again i think helps the woman's role", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": " are so involved yes right right their role has to change to kind of accommodate us too i know i have three children and my oldest is eleven and i've pretty much been home um since Brian was born", "role": "user" }, { "content": "you know i- um-hum um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and um just recently i went back to work um last school semester to tutor um high school age students with learning disabilities and i was just out of the house two days a week", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "but i thought wow this is really h[ard]- only and it was only two days and i was home before three but getting the baby to day care getting the kids off to school i still did everything i always do", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "you know my husband still got up and went to work but um", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "it it only those two it made a big difference i thought wow a full time i don't think i could swing that", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well i had to course i work full time but my daughter and her husband were out of town", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "personally ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "so i had my grandchildren for four days during uh football soccer season", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh oh boy", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and so i would work and her fr[iends]- some friends would take care of the kids but i would have to get them_1 picked up from there get them_1 fed get them_1 to practices get homework done get baths i was absolutely exhausted and", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "picked up dinner right i bet i bet", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and these women that are waiting until they're in their late thirties or early forties to have their first ch[ildren]- children i think are absolutely crazy", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "well i i know a lot of people i know i had my first child when i was twenty five and that's not considered really young these days that's almost you know but um i have friends that that", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "have kids just starting kindergarten and they're they're forty years old and and then like maybe a two year old at home and i think boy i- i'm i'm in my thir[ties]-", "role": "user" } ]
[ { "content": "okay uh so your you you i guess uh you're probably in the same uh same situation uh we're in we're kind of past having to provide child care our our kids are grown up we don't have any grandchildren yet but uh uh they're", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh how old are your children ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh one's twenty six and the other is uh twenty twenty one", "role": "user" }, { "content": " uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "so they're uh um", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well they're gonna be getting there ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "they're they're getting there you know there no no no prospects right away for anything to happen but uh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah uh uh-huh oh i see i have uh five children i have a eighteen year old son the rest of my girls are like twenty three twenty six twenty eight and twenty nine and i have three granddaughters right now", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum oh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and uh i uh one's in Iowa", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and uh she's she's a teacher and what she does is she teaches at a preschool an[d]-", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh okay", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and so she kind of and they let her bring her her little daughter in for free and then so the they're kind of but she just works part time", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "then i have another daughter in uh Bountiful Utah and she has to work full time and it's just tearing her apart she has a private baby sitter", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and uh the baby just screams i mean the baby is like seventeen months and she just screams we even she knows that they're fixing to get ready to go over there they're not even there yet ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "you know", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah that's hard we've", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and and then i have my um um i have a seven month old granddaughter and uh her mother stays home and she they live wi[th]- that they live with us you know as in Orange County is really expensive ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "they live with us and so of course we love it because_1 we get to see this cute little baby all the time but um uh she just um she used to work in pre[school]- in the preschool and and and child care and she says after working in there and and you know here she was a provider but you know there's only so much one person can do", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "she says it's so awful she said she'll never put her child in a in a in a [preca[re]-/preschool] in a p[reschool]- in a preschool", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i'm sure there must be some good ones around here somewhere but it's really it's really really very difficult and", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um yeah now what did you do when your kids were growing up were you", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well when when uh the first uh ten years see first ten or twelve years i stayed home", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and um and then after that i i went to work and um uh uh a couple times i just uh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um you know th[en]- then i had one job and then that job ran out because_1 it's kind of a government seeded type job and then and then like about la[ter]- later i i tried to get the baby to a babysitter -[sup]posed to be good uh recommended person from the church and i knew her personally she have two kids of her own and everything but i quit my job because i couldn't stand how she was taking care of my child", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i mean first of all uh you know her children were sick all the time so when my son stayed over there he got sick same thing same thing that the her kids had right", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "you got sick yeah right well", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and so um we didn't take her over there until like about eleven o'clock then he she'd take my son and her daughter over t[o]- to kindergarten but sh[e]- uh that day um i was saying now he he's sick and she goes well because_1 he has the same thing that all my kids have that's what he got you know i goes well okay so it's not like he's gonna infect her kids but then what happened was is i said uh he just threw up and kindergarten starts at eleven thirty so she said well she'll keep him home and he'll probably just sleep anyway well you know what that woman sent her sent him to kindergarten she sent him to kindergarten as soon as he went there the teacher took one look at him and he threw up again and they put him in the nursery i mean they put him in the nurse's office", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "guess so yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and then what happened was is you know they gave her a call because they knew that she was my babysitter called her and they said um that he's sick well she wasn't home", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i mean her all her kids are sick but she wasn't home right and her and her her daughter that was in kindergarten with him also did not go to school because she was sick now why didn't he why didn't she keep him home with her no she didn't do that so it got to the point where he he's -[sup]posed to get out of uh kindergarten like about two thirty and i had to leave work it was it was five o'clock in the evening and i found out he was still there at school and they were calling me and they says somebody's got to pick him up and i kept thinking that she was gonna get picked up she was gonna pick him up because_1 she only lives in you know like two blocks away from the school i was trying to get my husband to come and pick him up and all that kind of stuff and he had a hundred and four fever they couldn't uh to give him anything because they're not allowed to at school and everything i was so furious i i quit that job and i stayed home for a while longer then i went and got a um a job in real estate where i can kind of adjust my time a little bit better", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "right yeah a li[ttle]- little bit more flexibility you can come and go", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah but uh i haven't had any good really very good experience with child care", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah well when our kids were small we had a couple of uh good good women who uh would often co[me]- uh get them_1 to come to the house and and take care o[f]-", "role": "user" } ]
[ { "content": "what kind of lawn and garden work do you do", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well right now the place where i'm living the yard was basically neglected for the about the last twenty five years so i've been trying to rebuild and reestablish the entire lawn and after three years of working at it i've i've been amazed at just what a little bit of doing help out things to the lawn has really brought it back ins[tead]- instead of mowing it the same direction every time changing one day you'll or o[ne]- o[ne]- one time you'll cut it cut the lawn the long way then you'll go the opposite way instead of going lengthways you go width and it helps the grass come back", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh does it really i didn't know that did um you've been working on it for three years", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[vocalized-noise] for for three years", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "really what have you done", "role": "user" }, { "content": "killing lots of fire ants", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i was firmly convinced the entire front yard was nothing but one gigantic ant mound", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "because_1 it was like you could[n't]- you couldn't even stand still out there without ants starting", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "you know i can barely hear you", "role": "user" }, { "content": "is this better", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah a little bit yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "it was like you'd go out in the yard to water something you'd just be standing still", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and the ants would start crawling up your legs [laughter-and] [laughter-it's] [laughter-like] i'm not standing in a mound though", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh wow how did you get rid of them_1", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh Dursban Two", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "pardon", "role": "user" }, { "content": "a chemical called Dursban Two it's a crystal", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh Dursban Two yeah [laughter] Dursban will get rid of just about anything i think but um so you haven't had a problem with that since", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um not bad every once in a while you'll have a mound pop up but that's", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "gonn[a]- to be expected", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "what else did it k[ill]- did it kill anything else it wasn't supposed to", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um as far as i can tell it hasn't killed anything it wasn't supposed to the even the area of the grass that was underneath and around the mounds it didn't kill it", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "not really yeah really well that's pretty wild w[e]- yeah we used it for fleas we had fleas in our yard real bad last year and we did that um i just i'm not basically i like to mow the lawn believe it or not but i sometimes have problems starting the mower so a lot of times i don't get out and do it but my husband basically does most of it and he does the you know edging and all that kind of thing and we're renting and so we don't really put a lot of money into the uh you know th[is]- like this lawn could probably stand a couple of loads of dirt and some Saint Augustine we just we have winter rye out back and we have i don't even know what it [laughter-is] out front but um we this is the first house we've ever lived in and we're just not real into the lawn probably because_1 we rent i guess huh but anyway", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well well you said you had problems with fleas last year in the yard", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "right uh-huh we get", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh i found one thing that it's kind of a weird thing to say to put out in the lawn but every time i've done it it's got it it drives the fleas completely out of the area", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "what", "role": "user" }, { "content": "powdered sulphur", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh really hm i wonder why it does", "role": "user" }, { "content": "you d[on't]- you don't have to put a whole lot out just if you've got a broadcast spreader", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i think it comes in a forty pound bag and it's real fine like flour", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and you just si[ft]-", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "go out and do the entire yard and you i mean you don't have to put clumps of it just very lightly cover the entire yard", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "really well i'll have to remember that because_1 uh hopefully we won't have them_1 this year but we have a cat that comes in and out and the cat was getting um fleas and stuff and bringing them_1 in the house so we had a real problem last year with fleas and it was uh quite a drag because um we got them_1 in our house and [laughter] we're Christians and we prayed that we could get rid of these fleas and we got rid of them_1 believe it or not with smoke bombs which is just about impossible to do but we did and so we don't want them_1 back this year you [laughter-know] so i'll remember that if we see it's a problem in the yard we almost they were so bad last year even ticks it i don't know we've had ticks before a lot and we've had to get out and treat our lawn for that i think we used Dursban [vocalized-noise] we used Dursban and Diazinon and get out there and do what you do [laughter] with that thing you know and spread it all out everywhere but that's about the extent of our lawn care so i don't know do you enjoy doing it", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh i love it my wife can't understand it'd be a hundred degrees outside i'll be out there but it's too hot to be working in the yard i'm under the trees i'm having fun and i'm stopping to drink water so what's the [laughter-problem]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah well that's well that's funny yeah not everybody enjoys it though everybody has a different things i kind of enjoy it and my husband doesn't [laughter] i kind of have to sometimes i'm too busy to get out there and do it and he you know he doesn't really enjoy doing it but he'll do it and he doesn't gripe about it or anything but you know i'm kind of like you and he's kind of like your wife and you know in that he doesn't really enjoy it but i would like to have a garden though that's my thing but right now where we're living we have the trees where the uh roots are at the top of the ground everywhere all over the ground i don't know what kind of trees they are but you can't have a gar[den]- you can't till it or it'll it'll tear up a nice tiller so we're going to wait until we move we don't have a lot of sun either because_1 it big trees back there so we're going to wait and when we move that's one of our priorities is to get a house where we can have a um garden and so i'd like to do that i have a feeling i'll be out there all the time [laughter] taking care of that but that's our next thing do you have a garden", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i've got the this is the neat thing about the place we ended up at i'm sitting on about a two acre lot now and uh half of it's the back half is my garden", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum oh are you kidding that sounds fun where do y'all live", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh in Missouri City southw[est]- southwest side of Houston", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh really wh[at]- southwest where", "role": "user" }, { "content": "southwest Houston", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh really oh because_1 we're in Dallas i guess i assumed you were here well that's neat and um yeah that's what we want we have a yeah that's really what we want but we just haven't been able to do that yet so one day we'll be able to do it and i'm excited about it and then i don't know anything about it and i'll have to learn and maybe i'll give you a on [laughter-gardening]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "what do you do in your garden and i'll go nothing what is should i do but anyway i guess that's about it though it sounds like we've covered all the bases so i guess we'll let you go and um do you have anything else you wanted to say", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh no [vocalized-noise] en[joyable]- very enjoyable conversation with you", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "okay i know you too i hope you have a nice day and we'll talk to you later bye", "role": "user" }, { "content": "okay you too okay bye-bye", "role": "assistant" } ]
[ { "content": "hi so uh what was the last car repair you had", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter] just recently i was kind of laughing when i when i heard the switchboard talking about the question because uh i had to have my uh radiator flushed", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter] oh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and it was getting rusty and the thing that they forgot to do was to um to also look at the hose and i had gone about oh two days with my new radiator flushed and the hose burst so i was stranded out on the highway [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh no did you crack the block or what", "role": "user" }, { "content": " no i i i didn't do that thank goodness but um there seemed to be enough antifreeze in there you know left to do that but it cost me all kind of money you know to have that repaired after they said they were gonna they had repaired it t so that was that was a horrible experience just recently", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah i'll see you got lucky didn't ruin the whole engine though that can be pretty serious", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yes yes i know i know what about you", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh i guess it's been awhile for me i'd s[ay]- it's been about a year", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah i had the uh the water pump break on my car", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah i was traveling uh i was going on my way home from Thanksgiving and it broke like in the middle of nowhere", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "so i had to get it towed and then fixed and big pain", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh oh oh i know i know especially what if you're out on the highway", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah that's where i was luckily someone came by and gave me a ride", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum um-hum i know well you know i uh living in Dallas you know we've got uh bumper to bumper eight lanes of traffic and uh that was that was horrible", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter-yeah]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "you know to have the you know your car is fuming and everything it's already a hundred degrees [laughter-you] [laughter-don't] [laughter-need] [laughter-that] [laughter-too] oh shoot", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "but my car is getting old see it's about six years old now so", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah so is mine [laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah so i got it right out of college and so it's uh it's starting to show that wear and tear now", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah i'm hoping mine gets me through i got until May till i'm out so if my car lasts that long i'll be okay ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh uh-huh yeah that uh that was my graduation present to myself so yeah yeah i know so but gosh it's really starting to to wear so i've been thinking especially now is a good time to buy a car", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh that's nice [laughter] yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "gonna because_1 i can't uh i don't know if i wanna you know pay all these repairs now to start getting it fixed when it's starting to breakdown", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah i don't wanna do too much on mine because_1 it'll be worth more than the car and that it it's not worth it [laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum um-hum yeah that's true i agree with you there so i don't know uh because_1 i i need to have it tuned you know tuned up and i don't know replace some of the belts and i was looking at the uh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "tires need to be replaced and so i was thinking gee that's a lot of money i'm might as well buy me a new car for that", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah i got new tires last winter too so i'm like that's the last major purchase for this thing it's not worth it", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh well you have to Pennsylvania boy you have to really have your car winterized and stuff huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah yeah we get some killer winters up here in the mountains", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum oh really oh okay so", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah lot of snow and a lot of cold", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh well especially don't you have what a lot of salt on the ground", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah at times there's a lot of it you got to like clean out the underneath of your car all the time when you get a chance", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh yeah yeah well rust and the and the body too huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah i haven't had a big problem with that though", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "so i've been pretty lucky there", "role": "user" }, { "content": " well i think they got the new Z Bart stuff and everything to where you can um", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah that's for usually pretty good you just rinse it off after the winter's over and done with it", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh yeah and go like that so", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah i usually like to do most repairs on my own though", "role": "user" }, { "content": "do you", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah just because_1 that way i know what's wrong with my car and what it needs and what it really doesn't", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah plus if something goes wrong i'll know who to blame", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter] well i i think i'm getting too old for all that my uh i had four brothers and they used to drag me out underneath the car and stuff so i can i can do all that stuff but i i think i'd much prefer to pay the twenty two ninety five to to go and have it done now so i can get my hands dirty", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter] [laughter] [laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "so yeah i'm just getting getting to that age i guess you just don't have your time becomes very precious so working on the car is just not one of those things i wanna spend my time on anymore [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter] more fun things to do [laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": " absolutely absolutely so yeah trying to you know i just need one i had two cars there for a while so i wouldn't have to worry about which car was gonna run", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter] well that's nice", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and yeah so but it became a hassle trying to keep up and maintain both of them_1 and yeah so that", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah one's bad enough [laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yes one was bad enough but i think i got rid of the wrong one [laughter] i soon i need a lot of repairs done on on this one so yeah that was uh that was something else", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter] [laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "whenever our five minutes up [laughter] i i didn't i didn't set the time or anything to uh yeah put", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter] yeah i was just wondering that [laughter] yeah i didn't either yeah this must be a a hard category", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well yeah i guess um you know unless you're um you know big {do-it-yourselfer} um to you know fix up your own cars and and things like that so but i guess th[ey]- they were talking about experiences you know i uh uh i did my parents live in Ohio so i i do know something about_1 the you know the really cold weather and uh i've always lived down here in the South and i w[ent]- i took my car up there to their house and um i guess i had a crack in the block and when i got up there the car", "role": "assistant" } ]
[ { "content": " okay well um i know so[me]- in some of the one of the smaller towns around Dallas they started curbside recycling", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and that's going really well uh because they i think what ha[ppened]- what what goes on is they get like dis[counts]- they get charged not by the amount of trash they do well they get charged by for the pick up of the trash and not for the recyclables", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "so it's so you get p[ay]- you pay less to have your trash picked up becau[se]- if you presort all out all your tra[sh]- all your recyclables", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh that sounds great", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "what are they doing out there", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well it's sort of a mixed bag up here uh some of the communities have started off with volunteer recycling uh one of the towns near here Cambridge uh had a couple years worth of volunteer recycling i never saw it but i know a fellow who was involved in the effort who said that it was amazing just hundreds or you know maybe even more than a thousand cars coming in on the one recycling day a month and they had dozens of volunteers sorting things and when the volume reached a certain level the city's Department of Public Works finally decided to do a curbside program", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "wow um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh my town Arlington has had a uh a similar volunteer program and they just got the Department of Public Works to do a uh a daily drop off at their yard where you know people can bring in glass and and uh paper and and whatnot and aluminum and tin and some of the other towns around here fact just about all the towns that border Arlington where i live have gone to the curbside recycling and i really wish we'd do it here it's just so much easier for people and i think it's it probably results in a larger volume of stuff being recycled if all you have to do is put it out by your curb once a week", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "right", "role": "user" }, { "content": "as it is here i sort of resent the effort to you know collect everything until i have a chance to get down to the DPW yard and drop it off you know it's not a huge inconvenience but it's just one more thing to do", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum and it's hard to find i know at least here it's hard to find places that w[ill]- that recycle and so many things are recyclable like shampoo bottles and water bottles", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "but no place will take them_1 and you know i mean they're real specific you know you can do your newspapers but you have to take all the slick stuff out you know and well what do you do with the slick stuff", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i mean they're so specific i mean in i know in Dallas they're having a real hard time right now because the drop off sites", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "people aren't there's a you know what they say that a couple people can mess it up for everybody", "role": "user" }, { "content": "right", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and there's some people that are not sorting out uh like their slick stuff out of their newspapers and uh all their plastic bottles or their brown glass out of their clear glass and the companies that recycle the stuff won't recycle it then", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh boy", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and they'll just trash it so tha[t]- all the effort goes downhill", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter] boy that's [laughter-a] [laughter-real] problem tha[t]- really hate to hear that just regarding the newspapers the one curbside thing we do have in my town actually is every other week they'll pick up newspapers which is nice and the rule is that anything that comes in the newspaper even the slick uh ad inserts they'll pick up and that's great", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "really", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "that is great gee i- i didn't i- i just thought there was something in the slick stuff that that made it so they couldn't recycle it well that's great", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah i- i guess it depends on the facility it's going to the thing that i guess the flip side of that and in our town anyway is that they won't pick up plastics now and even when they were here and in other towns around here they won't take the so called injection molded things which i guess basically are containers that are bigger at the top than at the bottom like yogurt containers typically", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh okay um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and uh you know i don't know about Dallas but [laughter-i] [laughter-think] people around Boston eat a lot of yogurt so there's just a lot of lot of containers that uh that wind up getting tossed you know without being recycled", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter] yeah um", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and i don't know what's going on with in terms of capacity it's my impression although i haven't really read anything about it that so many towns and cities have started recycling with there might not be enough firms out there that are willing to take the uh or you know that'll pay decent money to take the materials", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "right right i know well i know here at uh i i'm in i'm in college and um", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "we have more than one campus and i'm on the kind of like an off branch campus", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and on the main campus they've got a company that comes in and takes out all the recyclables all the copy paper and all the cardboard box[es]- i mean everything that's recyclable", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh that's great", "role": "assistant" } ]
[ { "content": "okay well let's see", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh probably uh in the last few weeks the biggest uh way i've had of keeping up with what was going on in the Gulf was CNN and i think maybe that's probably true for everyone", "role": "user" }, { "content": "right uh we don't uh get that in uh straight fashion but you know the other major channels have been carrying a lot of it so i've seen a good bit of their coverage", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh well we get we get the first you know it comes directly to us from CNN and it's a continuous coverage and course they repeat themselves a lot and it was really easy when", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "as we said well nothing's happening in the war because now they're interviewing the what seems to be dozens of Mideast experts all at once", "role": "user" }, { "content": "right oh they've really done uh good job of keeping everybody informed of what's going on sometimes i've wondered if it wasn't almost more than we needed to [laughter-know] [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "hm a little much [laughter-yes] we have uh we're a town of five thousand and so our local newspaper is not too swift", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh well our um newspaper does a pretty good job on most things but you know its uh not totally in depth and quite frankly i didn't read all of the war stuff", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "you know it was just there were too many long article and i try to quickly read through the paper before work in the morning so i don't don't get to spend a lot of time on everything", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "so you are off to work this morning", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[vocalized-noise] i'm at work yes", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh you're at work oh i assumed that these were home telephone numbers", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": " uh we also get a Chicago uh paper and course that's where our main coverage as far as world events are concerned our local paper is just current events", "role": "user" }, { "content": "what about your uh radio stations do they uh provide much in the way of current event stuff", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "in our town of five thousand we have one that is uh local FM AM station and their news is fed from CNN too uh it's more of uh oh call in for a trading post type thing and uh the fi[fty]- music from the fifties and uh it's i guess what you'd expect from a farming community", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh well i've lived in a small town before and was quite aware of the local radio station at that time and i know how they are", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well ours uh that we tend to listen to most um i like the way they handle news type things because in the morning and in the evening they'll have you know five minutes worth of news every half hour ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "hm", "role": "user" }, { "content": "but in the middle of the day they don't just drown you with the same old stuff and they won't interrupt unless it's you know really important", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[vocalized-noise] um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and and of course they did a good bit for some of the war stuff but they didn't just over do it", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i only watch one soap opera a day and it seems to me and that's probably about once every two months since my husband retired it seems to me so often times that they cut into that soap opera with what i don't really consider as earth shaking i guess maybe i think sometimes the uh the coverage is almost too intent", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah i think so i- i don't really think we need to know or even sometimes care so much about all the little nitty-gritty things they keep asking over and over i think think the reporters sometimes ask the silliest questions", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum you mean when the reporter sticks the the microphone in the person says the face and says how do you feel that you house has [laughter-burned] [laughter-to] [laughter-the] [laughter-ground]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter] yeah [laughter] things like that are just kind of absurd or once in a while they'll they'll keep uh just hounding someone that they're interviewing", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter-that's] [laughter-a] [laughter-bit] [laughter-much] [laughter-isn't] [laughter-it] [laughter] um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and there seems to be no purpose um you know the person has stated you know some opinion or fact or whatever and that should be the end of it and they just keep on and on and on", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i guess maybe they have so much time to fill i've thought often times that maybe our world was a little bit better place when i was in high school and the wor[ld]- and the news like your radio station was on fifteen minutes in the evening and then they went on to i don't know i think the Andy Williams show or something that filled up the other fifteen minutes of that half hour and we just weren't so heavy with it", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "well it's sure been nice visiting with you", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well you too", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "we're having sleet and rain in Indiana this [laughter-morning] [laughter-so]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh well we're having sunshine i think it's gonna be up in the seventies today so", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter-oh] well have a good day then [laughter] bye-bye", "role": "user" }, { "content": "you too [vocalized-noise] good-bye ", "role": "assistant" } ]
[ { "content": " go ahead [laughter] ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh have you ever been tested for a new job or anything", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um no i haven't but in my job i'm a nurse and we are allowed to be i mean you know this is the rules that they can do this anytime uh i don't know of anyone who ever has been picked out and been tested", "role": "user" }, { "content": "so it's just sort of um they can if they", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "they can if they choose to right ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "y[eah]- oh okay", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "have you well wh[at]- have you had any experience with it at all", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um not really but i've always worked on a university level but a lot of my friends had to be tested before they got summer jobs and stuff", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh and what do you think about that", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um i don't i don't think they're very accurate because_1 i mean i know their lifestyles changed p[rior]- prior to the drug test and i know they changed afterwards", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "right right see i know of that too and i also know that things like antihistamines Sudafed things like that can really throw it off and you cannot get a job because of it and they may not tell you the reason why", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah i- i had a friend it didn't cause her any problems with her job but it came back that she tested positive for using a hallucinogen", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "but what it was was she had been u[sing]- she had been um in the jungle and it was some Malaria medication and she tested positive for that", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "see and so it really is a dangerous thing that way because i know of somebody that tested for an airline and didn't get the job and they weren't told why but a lot of people say the reason why after you take a physical will be because of the drug testing or they would tell you or this person never use any drugs", "role": "user" }, { "content": "see i always i thought they got you got called back if you tested positive for more test", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "but um you should because you should be given another chance or at least able to justify it or something i have real mixed feelings about it i don't know", "role": "user" }, { "content": "how uh do you know how wrong they are are they i mean is there a margin of error", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "the accuracy i don't know i don't know but i know there are a lot of things that can influence them and i think that a person deserves a second chance with it or something because most things will stay in your system for a long time", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and if you could show that i- i interviewed for a job recently and i was taking Entex", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and my doctor gave me a prescription for it and he said this way if it were to make the drug test positive you have proof that your doctor ordered this for you you know and it didn't come up that i needed to do it but if this could happen to anybody and if they would just say oh this person's drug test is positive we won't hire them", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "you know then you could lose out on a job when really you didn't do anything", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah and i i'm not so sure they're that needed i mean", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "so i don't know yeah i'm not sure either the only way i can see it is that if they really suspect a person of using it then they have the right to go ahead and prove it because they say they can spot check", "role": "user" }, { "content": "ye[ah]- if you're using it while at a job i can see a problem but the occasional person then it's almost like it's almost an infringement of your privacy", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah well it sort of is and this is it this i'm not real sure how i feel about it because i can see it from two ways you know as a health professional i wouldn't want somebody take care of me that was using drugs", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "you know so as a patient i feel well yeah we probably should be protected but on the other hand there's a lot of things i should be protected from it they don't test my patients for too [laughter-so] you know i guess you sort of you have to have trust some place along the way", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "you can't go around testing everybody for everything", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "so i don't know and i- i think it could be used to hassle somebody if someone was out to get you i think that a company or a boss could use this you know they could keep on doing this to you or something i guess i can see where it could become a problem", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and it it's like it seems like now they have [trests/tests] i guess they can test your hair and they can find out if you use drugs up to several years ago", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "really oh wow but maybe you shouldn't be held responsible for something you did several years ago", "role": "user" }, { "content": "so i know", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "that's the other thing i mean a lot of a lot of people as kids or you know young people get into some things that they get out of later on and i don't think they should really have to pay for that forever", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah there's a lot of things you do as a kid that you wouldn't do as an adult but", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "so yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "you can't say it was wrong at the time", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i think that's true yeah yeah so that probably wouldn't be too good either", "role": "user" } ]
[ { "content": " ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "okay well let's see invasions of privacy actually um i can't think of too many except uh oh occasionally my employer", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "or um sometimes it seems of a bit of an invasion when i when i get calls from phone solicitors", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah that's that's one of the that's also that's also for me invasion of privacy that's also a one of my pet peeves", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter] well i get i've uh figured out someways creatively as to fight back with phone solicitors though", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "okay", "role": "user" }, { "content": "like um well i i've discovered it's kind of fun to try to take control of the conversation", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh like you know typically they're reading from a script", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "right ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "so if you start asking questions right away", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "or do anything that's a little ou[t]- out of the ordinary they get really thrown", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh i see", "role": "user" }, { "content": "so like often what i'll do is i'll call up and say hi i'm Carla from XYZ company and i'll say excuse me uh what's your name again and uh act like i'm writing it down and [vocalized-noise] could i have your last name Carla ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum um-hum ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and what's the name of your company you know and this by this time they're really shook up and then um i ask her uh uh Carla could i have your home telephone number please", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and and they go well uh no i go well why not i said well i don't give out my home number as well why not i mean you're calling me at home i ought to be able to call you at home and that [laughter-really] [laughter-shakes] [laughter-them_1] [laughter-up] [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter] well that's good you have a good sense of humor with it i i would do something like talk to them_1 for like two minutes or something and then say uh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "well you know the person to talk to i[sn't]- isn't isn't here right now wait a minute i think they're ju[st]- just a minute let me see if they're here and then you leave", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter] [laughter-yeah] [laughter-right] or put them_1 on hold yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and see how long yeah see how long they'll wait but", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah well another thing you can do is you can pretend that you got them on call waiting", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "say i'm on long distance on the [laughter-other] [laughter-line] [laughter] or you can just say no thank you and hang up", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah right well i yeah well one of my Tad T A D okay uh one of my things one of my pet peeves is soc[ial]- security numbers", "role": "user" }, { "content": "ah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and that is um i'm an adult but i'm going back to school and everywhere on the campus where i write a check it's they want soc[ial]- security numbers on everything and i just go bananas because_1 it's just it's number one it's none of their business and it and it doesn't ha[ve]- they want it they want it to be put on your check", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah and those are used as pin numbers a lot like with my bank uh uh if i want to move money around over the phone or check my balance or anything the pin number they want is the last four digits of the social security", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "right exactly and plus in California they have this new thing where they have the magnetic stripe on the back of the driver's license i don't have one yet yes", "role": "user" }, { "content": "really i didn't know that huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yes and that's another thing so they think they can plug you in for a profile see and i", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well now where where do they use the stripe", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "in a a reader", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh you mean like when a cop pulls you over he runs it through a reader", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "or something right exactly", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter] well that's amazing ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "but see what's happening though is that it's starting be in[tegrated]- to goi[ng]- they're going to try to integrate it into the stores too", "role": "user" }, { "content": "really", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "so so but the stores can't get all the information", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah well like the stores can probably develop their own databases but they can't get into the department of motor vehicles", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "right ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i'll bet that's it", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "but the yeah but in other words so they can ver[ify]- they can go in and and get the card and get information off it but the the police reader could get more information you might say", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah because_1 they cou[ld]-", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "but i i just i d[on't]- i i don't like the i[dea]- i don't like the idea of business and information you know and in the world is coming to is is is information ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well then you know about caller ID", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh exactly oh yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah hey did you get uh did you get the number for this off of the internet ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah i did ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh [laughter-okay]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "are you an internet man ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah most of the uh most of the [laughter-people] i talk to on here are on [laughter-internet] ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah did you get it off of uh Telecom Digest", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh yeah i read that constantly", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "so do i yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah i post on there from work under Paul Cook at Proctor and Associates", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "okay", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and at home as Tad Cook", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i see yeah yeah i have an account at school so i'm able to do that", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh yeah well i got mine from a friend of mine uh owns a Unix consulting firm and gave me a free account there a few years ago", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh i see", "role": "user" }, { "content": "so i can just dial it up and", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "so you have a free di[al]- you dial in free yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah it's real neat", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah what is it is it eight hundred number or you just happen to be within the boundaries", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh i'm wi[th]- yeah we're in actually almost exactly the same exchange i'm real near his office", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh okay ri[ght]- yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "but it's uh it's it's pretty neat he doesn't have a full UUCP fee but i", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah yeah well if you if you're on you're on the usenet groups you might try uh alt privacy ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i yeah i'm on this uh moderated one a mailing list uh that's [vocalized-noise] uh Telecom ", "role": "assistant" } ]
[ { "content": "um taxes [laughter] you want to go ahead", "role": "user" }, { "content": "sure we pay far too much in taxes well far too much for what we get i mean it's just", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum i agree", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i don't know it ju[st]- too too much of the money is just lost [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum well i think uh you know when i look at um all the things that are coming out now about over spending and spending money that's not there and buying things that are extremely expensive where they could buy it at it at a better discount um when you when", "role": "user" }, { "content": "hm you mean like those you know twenty thousand dollar toilets [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "exactly exactly that's exactly um the whole thing when you take a look at all those issues of where our money is going and it's just as long as the the person that's spending the money uh doesn't think about oh i can go out and spend anything that i want to it's just unlimited", "role": "user" }, { "content": "sure it's real easy to spend other people's money right", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "right an unlimited source so they they think well i'll go out and buy a four hundred dollar toilet seat and i could have went to Kmart and bought it for you know ten or fifteen i mean that kind of thing and uh [vocalized-noise] ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter] right [vocalized-noise] i don't mind them getting what they need it's just when they pay so much for it", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "exactly", "role": "user" }, { "content": "it takes very you know very little to just shop around and", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "exactly and i know a lot of uh corporations now are looking at their amount of money that's being spent and", "role": "user" }, { "content": "that's true [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "they're looking at what's the best buy it used to be you could go if you had a company you had to go through certain people and you didn't care what you paid", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yep", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i mean you just got it done now people are putting in bids for things and are looking at things going to actually shop at Best Buy for Best Buy is one of our electronics stores for fax machines things like that instead of going through these office supply companies", "role": "user" }, { "content": "right", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "that mark up their amounts and say you know i'll give you a legal pad for five bucks and you can go to another shop and get if for maybe sixty cents or n[inety]- or ninety cents that kind of thing so", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter] yeah and i'm also wondering why our taxes are still so high considering like the world's probably in better shape now than it has been in the last fifty years ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "except for everything keeps going up you know and i know as a middle class um you know and also i have one dependent has", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "my daughter and i keep looking at well where's the tax so-called tax um", "role": "user" }, { "content": "hm", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh relief for having children i mean there is none i mean i think i paid just as much as when i didn't have her", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah i know oh i know i mean i don't even you know i don't even get get to see half my paycheck between 401K and and the thirty four percent they're taking out for taxes [laughter] let alone when i end up having to pay [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": " so um-hum sure exactly uh-huh exactly yeah that's the whole thing now they've gotten this wonderful idea of not taking out as much taxes", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "but you're still gonna owe the government as much money so by the end of this coming year what's gonna happen is all these people are going to find out that they owe the government and it certainly isn't going to be in their savings uh account", "role": "user" }, { "content": "sure [laughter] nope they won't be able to pay", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "they won't be able to pay it and there'll be a lot of problems because of that you know put people into you know January or February which is always supposed to be this month after Christmas is supposed to be high spending because everything is on sale nobody's gonna have the money to spend", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter] sure none", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "they're gonna be paying on their taxes so they're gonna have to just cut back so i don't know where the answer is and ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i don't and plus [vocalized-noise] you know there's also like taxation without representation well i don't feel represented anymore in our government i mean it's [laughter] it's certainly not a government for me they don't take care of my needs [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah yeah no no well [vocalized-noise] that's the whole thing i think people are getting so fed up with it now we go through another election and listen to all these lies about the", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and and people don't care anymore either p[eople]- people don't wanna go out to vote", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "no no well i don't think people think they can make a difference and when you've got candidates as you do it's candidates that have money and it's backed by big business", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yep", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and big business says well we don't care about the little person and uh you know you're not going to get anymore Abe Lincolns around", "role": "user" }, { "content": "no but but that's that's going to backfire because [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum well who knows uh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "little people who buy everything so [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah generations from now we might uh set back in our little uh rocking chairs and watch our grandchildren go through an entirely different system of things and say you know this government itself isn't working just like the communist government of uh the old uh USSR and maybe that's gonna happen to America where they'll say hey we're fed up", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah yeah i wonder though [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "maybe it'll have to be just individual state tax", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and each state take care of itself and no government type of uh you know where you have to pay out to federal or whatever i don't know who knows but", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah i'm not [laughter] i don't know i can't think of any easy answers to it but {somethings} has to happen i mean", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i'm certainly fed up with it [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah [laughter] everybody is in fact i'm not sending in my tax money", "role": "user" } ]
[ { "content": "well the topic is is very apropos to what's going on um how do you feel about our topic", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[vocalized-noise] well i feel like uh i do feel like we pay a lot of taxes i don't mind paying a lot of taxes if the ta[xes]- taxes are spent well", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yes", "role": "user" }, { "content": "but uh i'm not convinced that they're being spent well um", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um i think that's because uh it's like i told someone the other day i'm a housewife and uh among uh working mother too and i know how it is to live on a budget and i hear what you're saying", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum um-hum um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah our taxes it's nice to see them_1 spent for things that benefit the community but when we see them wasted that's when we think we're paying too much", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well i feel i- i mean one of the things is when i[t's]- it it's not going it's going into a lot of military stuff which is badly spent", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and not going into a lot of infrastructure things uh or or um you know social needs", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um", "role": "user" }, { "content": "that that it could i mean when you look at the pie it's it of where our money is spent it's it's uh very very um skewed", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and uh so i don't feel like i- i just don't feel like they're doing what i would do with it [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter] well i think uh in a way that's that's uh almost off our topic in you know in that uh they didn't want us to talk about how it was spent but i don't think you can separate it i know um i felt very fortunate once when i talked with a lady from England and she said their taxes are at least fifty percent", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and uh in talking to people i've met from other places uh we do seem to get off light except you know if you ever make money one year now you pay all this horrible taxes and you don't get to keep [laughter-any] [laughter-of] [laughter-it] ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well uh but the people who pay a lot of taxes also get a lot of services they have national health", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "that's", "role": "user" }, { "content": "so you know uh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh yeah um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "in other words yes that's why i say", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "in the other countries", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah so i'm saying if we did i wouldn't mind paying what we pay", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "or even more if i got a lot [laughter-of] stuff back for it", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "but uh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "well on national health so many of them_1 can't use it they say because they never can get in to see their doctors", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "at least in England", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i we hear that here uh some although we get some people who obviously don't want it like", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum yeah um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "like rich doctors [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "who who'd rather us not have it i think but i don't know i- i just and local taxes um i think are probably just about the same you know the s[chool]- the school taxes and all of that income tax of course is not a a topic in in Texas yet but i'm sure it's coming", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": " um-hum i hope it doesn't i uh i hope not but i don't see any way out of it unless we start cutting some spending drastically", "role": "user" }, { "content": "y[eah]- no that's true i've lived in uh states where they had income tax and you you know and you just get used to it", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "but uh ag[ain]- again um it just depends on what they're what it's being spent on", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "course i- i think the sales tax is about the most equitable tax there is because if you don't uh buy and participate you don't have to have to pay it", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": " and uh that way people who use the facilities and live outside of the area basically help pay some of the upkeep for it", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah and sometimes and sometimes i think it does work that way um", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "but they you know uh uh again it's it's y[ou]- you you have the different kind of taxes then then then what are they being used for and who is deciding what they are being used for", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and how much is spent to administrate administrate them_1 [laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "right [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter] yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "all those people are doing those things and and and i know that the stories i mean i personally know people who have been in this place where you know they they're having trouble paying their taxes and they", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh like you would with a bank you know go into the IRS and say you know you can you can do all this stuff to me and get nothing or give me you know let me pay this out and you'll get it all", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and they'll say no you [laughter-know] and i think n[ow]- wait a minute that was my money you [laughter-said] no with well we[ll]- well you're not going to get it all uh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah that's right yeah and and one of the things that makes it so hard on these people they slap so much penalty and interest on it", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "that they can triple it in nothing flat", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah i mean it's the one place that there's no recourse at all", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and a lot of people aren't trying to get out of it but trying to figure a way to live and pay it back", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "right", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and they just they don't accept that at all so", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "user" } ]
[ { "content": "uh actually it turns out to be an interesting topic because i'm now in the middle of a job search graduating here and realizing that one of the things that's not really well represented in benefits often is flexibility because my wife will have some set of benefits where ever she's working and the ability to mix and match in a useful way particularly with things like medical and dental it's something that i've been uh looking for", "role": "user" }, { "content": "that's true one of the really disturbing things for me is uh is the way that the government mandates that all insurance policies include particular benefits uh even though you could you might never have any need for them_1 uh here in Georgia they just passed a law for example that every health insurance policy must include coverage for mammograms and pap smears doesn't matter that you're single and male you still have coverage for mammograms and pap smears and uh [laughter] it's that kind of thing that uh uh that bothers me", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "that's amusing [laughter] yeah yeah i think we have a similar thing in California and i think that at the moment you can't issue health insurance that doesn't have coverage for substance abuse and certain other mental health issues and", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh drug treat[ment]- yeah drug treatment and alcohol and yeah that's the same thing here even if you're", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and the result is a lot of people won't provide it at all or over charge", "role": "user" }, { "content": "even if you're a Mormon you still have to have uh coverage for smoking recovery you [laughter-know]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh but but in general your idea about flexibility i think is a very good one because uh uh if y[ou]- if you have a a full gamut of of coverages um uh uh there might there might be a lot of things that the company [vocalized-noise] is wi[lling]- willing to pay for but that you're simply not interested in and what you ra[ther]- prefer to do is say", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "don't get some of those programs but shuffle the money over to another place to lower your deductibles or something", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "the other things they do seem to be willing to spend money in strange ways for instance i know where my wife works she can get for something like five or ten dollars a month sole health insurance but ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "right", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "it would cost her an additional sixty or seventy a month to include me on that policy well assuming that we both work at places that feel this way we may very well miss out on the convenience of going to the same place because those two places will never get together and agree okay one of them_1 will pay for all of the uh the dental and optical and the other one'll pay for the medical", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "instead it's it's very much designed towards self only insurance i don't know if all employers are that way but a lot of them i have seen are", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah i think that uh a a lot of them_1 are that way they uh th[ey]- they dea[l]- they deal with coordination of benefits and and no no particular illness who's the primary [carrer/carrier] and who's the secondary carrier but um uh everyone tries to be the secondary carrier and it's very difficult to to get it worked out uh i know at at Hayes uh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter] yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "the coverage for the employee is is completely paid by the company and to get your entire family covered is thirty eight dollars a month", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "well that's pretty good", "role": "user" }, { "content": "it is i'm very pleased uh i think uh very pleased with the benefit package that we have that has uh uh a dental check ups are completely covered um", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "there's a lot of particular things in the medical package that are covered from the first dollar particularly if you chose low cost alternatives like out patient treatment rather than inpatient and uh things like that um they have good educational benefits if you want to uh try to improve your uh you know g[o]- work further on a degree or or get a master's degree of something uh uh course", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "that's something this university at at least the graduate student negotiated plan was very bad about this idea of low cost alternatives", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i know in one case there were doctors around who were affiliated with the university who you can go see and all your lab work is covered under their research so in fact you're saving them you know hundreds of dollars in in billings by going to a research uh physician yet at the same time they will only pay based on eighty percent of the customary reasonable charges for the physicians visits and won't take into account the fact that by seeing that doctor you're saving them you know a couple of hundred dollars over going to somebody else and a lot of things like that", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um one thing i was wondering is something i've noticed that that they don't publicize much but a lot of companies in particularly organizations school and government organizations have is legal uh services of some sort", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah we don't have that either", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "hm", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh in in some ways i think it's it would be very good thing uh you know to be able to get your wills done and", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and uh advice just by picking up the phone or without having to actually uh you know pay somebody ex[tra]-", "role": "assistant" } ]
[ { "content": "well Amy it's been uh kind of overcast today and cloudy we have a our i have a son in kindergarten he was having a kite day", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah oh boy", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and i was really worried about it raining because it its has been there been some dark clouds and it's been um and it's been pretty rainy looking ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah i've been trying to put weed spray on the lawn for the whole week and you can't put it on if it's suppose to rain within forty eight hours", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-oh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and so i keep hearing the forecast it's going to rain it's going to rain it's going to rain but it really hasn't rained yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i know it just has that i it looks several times in the last couple of weeks it has looked rainy that day and not not done anything and we have a lot of trees", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "in our yard and o[ur]- property and they're pretty old big tall trees and so if it's an overcast day then the weather is pretty blah [laughter] because i really have to some sunshine or else i feel like i live in a cave all the time", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum yeah yeah [laughter] well i get tired with the ki[d]- i have two ki[d]- preschoolers a three year old and a two year old and when it's you know not nice and they can't go out it's really the [laughter-pits] so i appreciate it when at lat[ely]- they can at least go play in the backyard for an hour or something you know", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum oh i bet [vocalized-noise] yeah that makes a big difference but i uh we're kind of new to Plano and i'm", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "working on a carnival that's going to be in a couple of weeks for our school and i'm thinking that this has been a pretty you know rainy season it's been scary it's of kind of been cloudy every day and i thought well i'm just not anxious to have worry about the weather ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah yeah well my three and half year old he really wants to have the pool out in the backyard [laughter-you] [laughter-know] so any day i mean all Winter long [laughter-he's] [laughter-been] [laughter-wanting] [laughter-a] [laughter-pool] [laughter-in] [laughter-the] [laughter-backyard] so i'm hoping you know that", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "it just seems like the weather around here goes so quickly from being Winter to you know muggy and hot and it's just you never really have like nice cool sixty five or seventy degree weather with sunshine you know and i really miss that i'm from Chicago originally and i miss some miss seasons that you know that we used to get up there that you just don't have down here", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum well i know in um i'm from Missouri and we always had pretty nice four seasons and and you know ex[treme]- we have some extreme weather in each season but um", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i like that and we moved here from Houston in in uh July and everyone kept saying oh you're going up north it's not going to be so hot it's not going to be so humid and yeah that has just not been the case it has been", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh [laughter] oh really yeah it's pretty hot here [laughter-during] [laughter-the] [laughter-Summer] [laughter-gosh]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh it was extremely hot i thought i was going to die my car i thought it was going die last summer but", "role": "user" }, { "content": "do have air conditioning in your car or", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "well the air conditioning was broke but broken i guess it just couldn't handle", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "the stress and the heat the record heat and you know i was worried about every time we came to an intersection [laughter-that] the car started idling rough you know because of the extreme heat", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh yeah yeah yeah i know my husband doesn't have air conditioning in his car and he when he comes home from work you know during the Summer he's just w[ell]- he feels like he's burning like he's been baking for an [laughter-hour] gosh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum oh i know that's really awful but but i uh understand that this is kind of typical for this time of year the rainy season", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah what i hate is i hate having to water so much around here you know well we never used to have to water our lawns you know in Chicago it was always enough rain here and there", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum no sure", "role": "user" }, { "content": "but here if you don't water it just looks awful and i just hate to spend the money just going down the drain in watering grass you know", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "brown yeah that is that is awful and it it takes time and the and the kids they you have to water your lawn and they want to go out and run in it and get all muddy and you know so you're going do i want a di[rt]- a green lawn or a muddy feet [laughter] in the house", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter] [laughter] yeah we have a dog too so that adds to it you know been tracing in and out with whatever the weather is like out there so", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh no [vocalized-noise] well i don't know do the nice thing i'm looking forward to is uh not having a hurricane season", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh yeah because Houston was really hurricane alley wasn't it weren't there a lot of hurricanes there or ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yes we always had to big concern about hurricanes because_1 we're close enough to the coast and you know you had to have a supply like uh emergency supply on hand all the time during the hurricane season and", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh boy", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and it was pretty spooky this", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah that would be gosh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "they always have to think you know what's the weather doing and ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "keep the weather radio close by and stuff like that", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "right and do we have enough for you know um food storage and enough uh batteries and all the kinds of things", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah yeah really every time i store batteries i wind up going to use them and they're [laughter-dead] [laughter-they've] [laughter-been] [laughter-stored] [laughter-so] [laughter-long] [laughter] oh boy well then this is a little bit of relief although they still have warnings all the time around here for", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "that's right so", "role": "user" }, { "content": "you know tornado season hurricanes and stuff so", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum well i yeah i don't really like tornadoes either", "role": "user" }, { "content": "but yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "but uh at least there isn't at least [vocalized-noise] i feel like i got rid of something", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter-yeah] [laughter] ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "hurricanes so not too much of that", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah well i've been worried about mostly with having little kids now with taking them out in the Summer and getting them burnt up i mean i have to keep the sun screen on them just constantly when they go outside", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yes", "role": "user" }, { "content": "because_1 they say it's just so dangerous for little ones to get a bad sunburn ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and it is and i just i can't believe this the record temperatures that have were here last summer that", "role": "user" }, { "content": "so yeah a hundred and ten degrees and", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "it was just unbelievably hot and", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[vocalized-noise] i can't stand to be outside at all when it's like that i just don't even want to go out you know the [laughter-house] [laughter-to] [laughter-get] the mail [laughter-even] [laughter] leave me in the air conditioning", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter] that is pretty bad", "role": "user" }, { "content": "we had our air conditioning broke break [laughter-last] [laughter-last] [laughter-Summer] the switch got something wrong with the switch and we had to call somebody out to fix it because i couldn't take it more than a few hours without it on but ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh i know i can't imagine even well that would it is just pretty bad but so i guess um", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i guess the weather hasn't changed too much from here to Houston and", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "but it is like you say coming a little bit further up north", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "it's a little bit nicer to have a Spring and a Fall season where you have some pleasant weather everyday where you can feel like you just want to open your windows and", "role": "user" }, { "content": "no yeah that's really nice i hate having to leave the house clo[sed]- you know closed up all the time", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "an[d]- get some fresh air in the house and it feels good but", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "but i guess", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well have you been here during the real heavy heavy rains i mean i can't remember what time of year i think it's usually this time of year when we get some just torrential down pour gosh there was flooding our neighbors had flooding so badly it was like a foot deep in their house last year", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "no but i remember [vocalized-noise] oh no", "role": "user" }, { "content": "they had to replace all their carpeting and everything it was miserable", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "now that sounds awful", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah [laughter-that] [laughter-would] [laughter-not] [laughter-be] fun", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "no i have seen those i have driven around in the neighborhoods and seen those little flood gauges that will be there little yellow signs", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "it's you know has it like from one foot to four foot and i thought i would never buy a house were there is a flood gauge down the street", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter-oh] [laughter-really] [laughter] oh gosh no kidding talk about asking for trouble huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah that would be awful", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "well i've got some kids out on the trampoline i need to go look and see what they're doing", "role": "user" }, { "content": "okay well have a good day [laughter] thanks bye-bye ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "well you too bye-bye", "role": "user" } ]
[ { "content": "hi", "role": "user" }, { "content": "hi uh as a matter of fact this past weekend since we had a long weekend i uh took on a painting project in my bathroom and i had wallpaper up i had to completely strip the wallpaper off and then spackle holes and then paint that and it took me all weekend because uh the wallpaper getting it off i had to wet the walls down and that had to dry and then the spackling had to dry a day and then the painting took another day", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "you didn't try we {rewallpapering} you just uh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "no i i just painted", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "did you use a textured paint or", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh no actually the wall behind the paper was smooth so i just used a like a semigloss", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "well did you get good results", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well no not really i need to it [laughter-it] looks so bad our you can see where those spackling marks were i need to uh either paper back over it or do something ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah but just didn't it didn't it didn't cover it", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah it covered the spots pretty good but it didn't excuse me it didn't uh uh it just didn't look as smooth as i wanted it to", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "well we did a uh we moved oh last August and we're getting a house my house had this dark wood paneling at the end of the den and we decided we went to i've forgotten one of the paint stores and they just said oh you can get by and i forgotten what it was you put down and then you can just paint right over the dark", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "well more or less after about uh half dozen coats it looks reasonable but it kept the the dark it was uh just a real dark uh wood grain type paneling", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and uh it was smooth and uh and we would we put this stuff on and and it supposedly textured it or or did something to it and but because of the th[e]- dark behind it was really really hard to cover and", "role": "user" }, { "content": "was it like a primer", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah it was something like that although we sort of when we got through i wished we hadn't done it because we were you know we were trying to make the house look nice to sell it and we were painting it and trying to do uh you know make it and it it really was", "role": "user" }, { "content": "would you put a huh uh-huh ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "you know the advice they give you is uh the job was considerably tougher than we thought", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh particularly when you try to i was talking to somebody else who who had a lot of wood paneling and uh they had gotten somebody to come in with an estimate and it seemed like there was it was a good sized den with a lot paneling and the people quoted thirty thousand dollars to paint it or something", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh my goodness that's an awful lot", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "have you have you tried getting outside estimates to see what it costs to have something painted", "role": "user" }, { "content": "not inside now uh when we bought the house that we live in right now we had a company that came out and painted it that was one of the requirements from you know FHA", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "that the house be painted before we bought it and it was fairly reasonable we have a brick house but all the trim", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "around the house was uh if i remember right it was like uh five hundred dollars", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh that's quite reasonable", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[vocalized-noise] ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "so that wasn't too bad", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um the problem is have you have you tried matching paint lately", "role": "user" }, { "content": "no i haven't", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "my wife we we built a shed over the long way actually it took [laughter] this is not on the topic but i did finish it but my wife went to the uh Home Depot i think it was and and took a uh a copy of took a piece of brick ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and she wanted to paint the shed it's a it's a wooden shed uh and she took it and they've got this machine that matches the color of paint", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and uh they got and uh and in fact she put some right ba[ck]- she got they mixed uh a gallon of it and uh it's just remarkable how close it will match the paint uh and it does it uh oh electronically some something magic", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh so they did do a good job", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah you know they it but it's electronic ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh you put your sample under this thing and it looks at it and and uh and determines the and it it's really remarkable uh the problem they had and then they wanted some gray to do the to do the trim", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and uh but they didn't didn't occur to them that um that they could have taken a sample", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um from i forgotten this is Sherwin Williams Paint or something but anyway it's it's remarkable that's one of the problems though when you start painting to try to get the you know you want this you want this to look like this and you want that to look like that and of course if it's all white you're all right but when you start getting into colors have you had problems getting colors to match", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh yeah yeah as a matter of fact uh what we've got ours painted now is kind of a light creamy color and a uh a blue and the blue even so many years two years later or so it doesn't match", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um", "role": "user" }, { "content": "you know", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "so", "role": "user" }, { "content": "the very same type of paint and everything ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "gosh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "so", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "so you so what's your what's the solution then", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh i have no idea i repainted the whole thing [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh my well at least you'll get very good at it right", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[vocalized-noise] yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "you could go back and and paint the whole thing over that's uh this is an interesting topic that they would bring up painting because it uh it seems like everybody has a you know to go in and do i'll just do a little bit here and a little that", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "although the uh it's uh it we almost one day we we painted the house to uh we painted we painted the whole inside and it had all this dark trim we thought uh you know we did the one wall but the other trim i'm trying to think i think i think we left most of it because it gets to be uh they don't do that in the newer houses now we don't uh the mold everything is white in a new house everything is white ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah that's right white yeah that's what we're trying to get ours to look like", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh good luck [laughter] we wound up selling the house actually i i don't know whether it made actually it does it's interesting that the white um", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[vocalized-noise] yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "makes the rooms look bigger one of the in our down stairs in our dining room we have a formal dining room it has molding uh like picture frames i don't know what you call that that actually that are along the walls that you know up a couple of feet ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and my wife painted those the insides of those dark blue", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh i see", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and uh [vocalized-noise] it makes the room look remarkably smaller ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "huh she painted the insides dark blue and then the trim what co[lor]-", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "the trim is still white", "role": "user" }, { "content": "okay white", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "the the molding but by and she did that all the way around the room which makes it look very attractive but it makes the room look smaller which is uh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh yeah yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh which is it explains why they why they have everything white but i you wouldn't think that i well", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "maybe maybe somebody that understands colors would know all of that stuff but ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well uh what about the lighting did it make a big difference", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh not particularly because the house has so many windows uh it has the the the living room has four uh good size windows", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and uh well of course at night but with the we have we have we have a soccer field that's um oh about a hundred yards from our house", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and the lights shine right at our house it's kind of we didn't know that when we bought the house but", "role": "user" }, { "content": "so that uh you get some the color doesn't really matter for because you have that light", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah we have a lot of light yeah and well it it it um well it's just uh i think it's just the the the dark blue to about three feet and then above that we left it white so", "role": "user" }, { "content": "all time oh ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "anyway it didn't it didn't change but the the interesting thing is that paint we wound up having to go back and and scrape some of that away it didn't it kind of bled under the masking tape which i guess is probably the topic we're ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "I see uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "we're really on to that that the masking is you have to do that very very carefully", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and it takes a long time [laughter] ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "that's right you can work yourself to death well i'm sorry to hear your color didn't come out so good over the weekend", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah really no kidding", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "it's kind of frustrating", "role": "user" }, { "content": "it is a lot of work a lot of work", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "well i've got to go to a meeting it's been good talking to you", "role": "user" }, { "content": "nice talking to you thanks a lot bye", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "okay good-bye", "role": "user" } ]
[ { "content": " well i guess i don't have as much time for hobbies as i used to", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "what is your hobby isn't that the truth", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh i got two young boys uh four and two so i spend a lot of time with them [laughter] but uh whenever the weather's nice and uh we can get out i like to work in the garden a little bit uh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter] get that mud up in your fingernails yeah yeah i know how it goes", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter-yeah] yeah you know that's pretty relaxing to me like this", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh hey i tell you what getting outdoors is wonderful i do too my wife always gets mad at me for doing it so much because_1 she says you know i always come in so hot and sweaty and tired i said yeah but i love it", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "but for my you know my hobby believe it or not is really a collection i- i collect Mickey Mouse", "role": "user" }, { "content": "really", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and i it is a full time hobby of going out there and finding things to to add to the collection i got well over two thousand Mickey Mouse items so that's that's my hobby", "role": "user" }, { "content": "wow that's great", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": " uh at one time and this is about fifteen years ago i actually uh got some uh what do you call it uh ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh plywood board and i made some Christmas cut out figures that i put in the yard and i mean they", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "everyone always talks about you know where'd i buy them_1 and i keep telling them_1 but i didn't buy them_1 i- i made them you know and they stood there now for some fifteen years so uh and that in itself was a lot of fun you know but i've never worked with a jig saw before but it sure did work you know", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter] wow that's pretty neat yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and i guess the other hobby that i did at one time i don't do anymore is good old needlepointing and uh that was my wife's hobby and", "role": "user" }, { "content": "hm i see", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "so i picked it up and i did some stuff and i entered it into the state fair and i won a couple ribbons and said well okay but [vocalized-noise] for some reason it just didn't really catch my thing but my hobby of collecting Mickey Mouse", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter] yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i think i've got the disease now [laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter] now that you have more and more time on your hands right [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter] true true but i don't know you know it's you you're right though uh with the kids and i now have a six year old i don't have as much time for the hobbies as i used to", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter] wh[at]- yeah yeah i know what you mean they take up all my time now i'm kind of looking forward to the time when uh they're a little bit older and they can get out and you know get a little more active in sports and", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": " well [vocalized-noise] at this point my kid is six years old the we just finished our first season of flag football and daddy had a ball now i don't know if he had a good time but i had a great time and", "role": "user" }, { "content": "ah [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "so i look you know more forward to that i guess maybe that stage of my life i- i don't have enough time to do hobbies but i do have enough time to to play with the kids and that's what i wanna do", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah me too i'm i'm really i can't wait for that time i really can't wait", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh [vocalized-noise] i took them_1 out to a a a little T-ball and that that that worked out real nice", "role": "user" }, { "content": "it", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "he he enjoyed it uh i'm not sure that he understood what was going on but you know", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter] yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "but at six years old i- i think they're still a little bit young", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah see my oldest is four", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "but the but flag football he picked up that real quick he loved it", "role": "user" }, { "content": "really th[at]- that's great", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah and daddy loved it too i mean [laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter] that's pretty good yeah mine's um uh just now has started getting into well you know like all the other li[ttle]- little young kids he was up on the Turtles and stuff but now he's trying to get into Robin Hood", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "ah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and so we're gonna get him s[ome]- one of those Nerf Robin Hood bow and arrow things", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "well [vocalized-noise] i'm going to be doing for this Christmas uh i'm buying him a uh swing set which includes a fort and everything else", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter] uh-huh oh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and they say it only takes thirteen hours to build i'm thinking uh-huh so i have a feeling i might find myself with a full time hobby [laughter] i've got a uh a fence builder who's gonna come over there to help me so", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter] [laughter] oh that's good", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "hopefully between the two of us we can figure out how to put that sucker together", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah yeah it always always helps to get somebody to help you out", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "g[ot]- oh yes the the swing set that we have a little Jim Dandy uh made out of metal is okay but he's much too big for that and his imagination's much bigger so we we've got the monkey bars and the fort and you know it goes on and on and on", "role": "user" }, { "content": "hm uh-huh yeah wow yeah yeah whenever uh um every now and then i'll take mine to the park and they like to play on all of that stuff that's at the park and and it's like you said it's got the fort and you know it's the whole works", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh yes um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "made out of wood", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and and now who knows maybe the kids in the neighborhood will wanna come to his house to play you know [laughter] so [laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter] he always goes over their houses huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh right now we always do because_1 he says there's nothing to play with at our house so well okay so [laughter] i'd like to have my turn to be able to invite the kids because i- i don't know about you but i love having the kids around it's fun", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter] yeah uh there aren't too many right now actually mine are the oldest on our block uh the other ones are at least a year to two years younger so ours is a a block of pretty young kids right now ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "ah uh i think in my neighborhood there's about two or three at the same age but most of them_1 are about two or three years older so mine my [vocalized-noise] a little bit younger so but oh well he'll he'll he'll get there", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh i see i see [laughter] yeah i wanna know this side of it and and they do they do tend to congregate around our house and and you know i never really thought about that much either all the little ones come over and they kind of hang around our front yard but uh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "s[o]- so i guess the bottom line conclusion is t[ake]-", "role": "user" } ]
[ { "content": "okay so my children are twenty and twenty four and uh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "my son just moved uh to Arkansas so he's married so course uh uh when when they're here when they lived here and i have a daughter whose twenty and we spend a lot of time together", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "not so much as you know [vocalized-noise] we're we both have everybody's busy but when my kids were younger i was a single parent and i spent most of my life with my children i did a did a lot things with the kids", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "but uh yeah it's uh a i don't i i i one thing that happened is when when my son uh graduated from high school and he went off to college then it it drastically changed uh be[fore]- prior to that we had sit down dinners and we talked and we did a whole lot of things and then when he left", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[vocalized-noise] uh my daughter and i just kind of said well let's just kind of do what do our own thing and uh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "you know i i think that might i don't know i don't know you know it's been so long since i had little children at home i'll i'll leave it up to you as to what's really going on these days", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah well i first of all i'd i admire you for i have a few friends who are single parents and i just don't know how people [laughter-do] [laughter-it] [laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "that's is a tremendous burden to be working and have two kids to take care of", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh right", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and i don't know how you did it but um i have a six year old that's well she's in first grade and then i have a three and a half year old and um i have always been a big advocate of spending tons of time with my kids and um when i my first one when she was born i had to work part-time for a while because we had to have the extra money but when the second one came along i was fortunate enough that i i quit and i've been able to stay home and um", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh so you're not working now great", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "no no i don't work yeah and so i'm one of those few old-fashioned moms [laughter] and we uh i spend the whole day with Tara and we go and do things and we read books and we play and you know it's just it's great and i did the same thing with Taylor uh who's my first grader she's also a girl and uh i th[ink]- i think i can tell a real difference um Taylor has excelled in school like i just i never imagined she would she's at the top of her class in everything even though she's almost two year younger than almost all the kids in her class", "role": "user" }, { "content": "hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and i really feel like that um time i spent with her i mean she probably already had a lot uh of it in her but you know we spent a whole lot of time together reading books and doing a lot of things i think it helped her to feel real good about herself and feel like she could she could do it you know [laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "so it's it's been real rewarding for me anyway", "role": "user" }, { "content": "right but you know if uh uh i know now that i can look back and and i think about how much how much time i devoted to my children and and not necessarily but sacrificed a social life because i really did devote myself to my children basically i mean", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh i'm sure uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i mean i was i mean i did some things but i mean i really did but i have no regrets about that and i you know um ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and i can look back and it was so much fun being a kid with them and getting to do all the fun things that", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "you know you get to do it that kids get to do and and that you wouldn't do by do you know with other adults", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "right", "role": "user" }, { "content": "so it's great fun i really envy you", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "this is a wonderful time of your life", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "well it is you know as a matter of fact i think i'm real bad about looking ahead and thinking oh i don't ever want them to [laughter] grow up and you know go away to college and all that kind of thing but at least i'm really making the most of the time while they're little and um everything Taylor even attempts to do you know we go and watch her and and support her and that was something my parents weren't able to do and i resented that because i would be in i was always in plays in high school and in all kinds of drama and they could never come and watch me and that just it was so hard for me so i made a vow that when i had kids no matter what they did i was going to be there you know", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and see them do it so it and like you said it's fun i really enjoy it", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well i can remember my my mom started working my parents [vocalized-noise] well course both of them worked but my mom started working when i i was third the la[st]- the youngest and she started working when i went to first grade and i can remember", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "just a couple of few times that she would stay home and i i don't know if she was sick or just wanted to take the day off or what but", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "come home from school and you know eve[ry]- like you'd tell that she'd just mopped and she had you know food was cooking and the house smelled so good", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh uh-huh uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh i tell you what i'd ta[ke]- i don't know if children who maybe children who have that everyday don't don't don't appreciate it as much as you know", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "but uh it really was really was a special and i wished that she could have been home more it would have been greater because she was", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "because she worked she was always kind of high strung and you know", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "didn't have the time to spend with us individually so", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "right yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i think it's great if if uh if if you enjoy staying home with your kids while they're young and and can do it", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "that's great i wish i could stay home now [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah [laughter-i] [laughter-know] [laughter-well] i feel i feel really thankful that i can i mean we have had to really lower our standard of living you know we have friends who have beautiful homes and we have a very small old house but i just to me that's not important because i feel like we'll have plenty of time to get us a nice house some day [laughter] and i won't have these you know these little kids all my life so", "role": "user" }, { "content": "that's right", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um i just i have been willing to make the sacrifices and my husband has too and so it's not been a problem for us", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well and and uh so you probably have a lot of friends who have small children do you do you find the the trend is uh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "right", "role": "user" }, { "content": "away from what you're doing or that they're not spending that much time with them put them off with sitters and how about", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "well it's interesting we're real involved with a church group and so most of our friends are uh church friends", "role": "user" }, { "content": "right", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and they're the majority of them do stay home uh almost all of my friends i can call any time of day and they're home but um the fr[iends]- the friends that i've kept in contact with from you know when i did work and they're still working moms you know uh that", "role": "user" }, { "content": "right", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i feel like i real big uh difference in opinion with some of them because some of them work just because they enjoy working you know they they don't really have to work they just want to they like to get out and they don't want to be with their kids all day [laughter] and and that's hard for me because to me they're giving up something so precious you know and um", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "so any time we talk get on that topic i have to be real careful because i'm afraid i'll say something to offend them [laughter] but um most of my friends do stay home so that it's kind of nice we we have a big support group around here", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well that's great", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah it is i don't know how long everybody will be able to afford to keep doing it [laughter] but if", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i guess you just get used to you know living however you have to live to", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well i meant you know i meant if you don't ever have to go to work and you and you're you're happy you know even if your", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh kids all the way through high school and then it doesn't mean you have to go back to work", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "right yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "so", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah well i intend to uh i think when they're both in school i may i have a degree to teach and um i've never used it because i was pregnant when i graduated from college and i've always had you know been home with kids or worked part-time but um i might go into like substitute teaching or something because", "role": "user" }, { "content": "okay the hours are at least to be home you know", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah yeah and i can choose they say as a substitute you can tell them the days that you're interested and you know the days you're not you don't have to so", "role": "user" }, { "content": "that way uh maybe then then you can find out if you're really happy doing that if you want to do it full time later on", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "right yeah because i have a feeling i'm not going to like [laughter-it] [laughter] when i did my uh student teaching i oh i hated it", "role": "user" }, { "content": "so that's good [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i said i don't know why i majored in uh elementary education and here i'm about to graduate and i don't even like this [laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well maybe now that you've had your own children you'll like to be around little children or have a litt[le]- little better tolerance", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah yeah yeah it'll probably make a whole difference and plus i didn't feel well at the time i was pregnant and i was real sick and", "role": "user" }, { "content": "that'd be tough yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah i and you just don't feel like being around all these little kids when you are just sick to your [laughter-stomach]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "but anyway it's been nice talking to you", "role": "user" }, { "content": "nice talking to you and maybe i'll talk to you again okay bye-bye", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and uh thanks for calling bye bye", "role": "user" } ]
[ { "content": "well the roles of women have certainly changed over the last uh decade or two and i wonder if the the stresses that it puts on the the woman's body is uh all that good for her as it were had had there been enough adjustments in society to help the woman cope with what she has to go through um support group wise or or just all the different aspects that men have developed over the years to handle what the world does to them uh how how is the woman's world coming along in that respect", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i think it's come along very slowly i think that uh a lot of the stresses that you talk about ha[ve]- have [vocalized-noise] have taken a long time to become recognized but more strides are made toward addressing those stresses in women than ever were in men and i think that you know women have had stress you know for the last two hundred years but it's been a different kind of stress different kinds of situations because just being in the work place is different from being at home but at home you still have work to do you still have things to take care of but you don't have the responsibilities and the pressures that you have in the work place so a lot of women have a little bit of trouble adjusting to that but i feel like the in in the last couple of decades the the roles have almost come full circle because you know early on people were wanting to we were wanting to stay home with the kids and then they got into everybody has to have a career and it seems to be going back to a lot of women wanting to stay home with their kids although i don't think it'll ever go back to the way it used to be there will still be many many women who seek careers uh before they seek family", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "do you think a matter of choice or economics both", "role": "user" }, { "content": "both i think it's it's a matter of both um ec[onomics]- economics has a lot to do with it unfortunately but uh i think a lot of choice has gone into it lately and and most of them o[r]- or a lot of women i know would rather", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um if they have children they would rather stay home with them if if they if they possible can ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah that's true you know that's an interesting point that you brought up about the the fact that they essentially always have been under stress uh i would say more in the later latter years even those who stayed home had stress but when you're the one or the two out of ten women staying home on the block uh then the stresses that you do have uh the normal day-to-day stresses caring for children or whatever is occurring", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh you could go to at one time one era you could go to the other dozens of wives on the block or you could meet for tea or whatever and you had that stress relief uh built in", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah your neighbors that's true", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh whereas now with it's a kind of fifty fifty split or leaning whatever percentage happens to be in your neighborhood like for our neighborhood we're looking at ninety percent working women let's say uh there's no place for the wife to go when she has uh those kind of of stresses to be relieved", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah right there's no one for her to go talk to and there's also no one to to kind of come in and take over for her and allow her some time to herself for even a day you know because there's fewer and fewer people left or women that left at home to do that", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "so that's right about two months ago Omni Magazine which is a a science magazine are you familiar with that read an article um really restating some conclusions of some some uh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "programs or some investigations or research whatever you want to call it into the the actual physical differences between men and women and questioning whether those physical differences uh accounted for some of the differences in ways women handled stress as opposed to men and i guess to just barely summarize what the article said was that in the the womb the differing levels of testosterone and estrogen across the lower part of the brain the base of the brain affected essentially how the brain was connected to the rest of the body", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh now how that has to deal with stress i'm not really sure since i thought most of the stress had to do with you know from the from the eyes and the mental processes on up i don't know what it would have to do with the connectivity to the rest of the body", "role": "user" }, { "content": "hum yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "but it was an interesting uh uh line of reasoning where we've always thought or been told especially by the [vocalized-noise] for lack of a better term women's libber you know we're just the same as men well maybe not and and maybe you shouldn't be exposed to the stress the same way that men have", "role": "user" }, { "content": "right right", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "have managed to do all these years and maybe it will take a lot longer before the phy[sical]- physical evolution or for lack of a better term will occur to allow you to handle what we've put ourselves through", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah i agree with that i it it's something that um you know i guess science will eventually have all the answers to everything i don't know but it seems like it it would really be it's it's really difficult to put two p[erson]- a male and a female in the same role in the same circumstances and have them react to have them and their bodies react to the same situation in si[milar]- similar ways i think you know even between a same sexes in a different in the same role there would there would be differences in the way one guy handled something over the way another guy would handle it so i- i think when you put a male and a female in", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "right", "role": "user" }, { "content": "in and when in comparison you know it would be uh completely different i mean just just totally different and it you know goes a lot of it goes back to the way you were raised as children you know the males are raised to believe this and be this way and the females are raised to believe something else and be this way and uh when when you're raised that way [vocalized-noise] y[ou]- you kind of perpetuate that oh those ideals that other people uh force upon you", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "right", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and so you don't you're not able to well i- i guess you are able to if you want to change them but y[ou]- you stay in those roles for so long that it's it's hard to to adjust and it would take a a really long time for ethnic science to figure out you know what affects women how and how the same thing affects men i think it i just don't think it's any kind of study they can do in any even twenty or thirty year period of time you know", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah the subject would die before they had to run all the tests that they need [laughter] [laughter-that's] it would be an exhausted test uh how about the the area of role models or roles as it were when you", "role": "user" }, { "content": "that's right [laughter] [laughter] it would", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "you know teach the boy that uh he fixes the car and the woman fixes the meal uh not not arguing that there should be a role for a sex but should there be uh a set of not not a specific role let's say let's not say that only the the girls should do the cooking but at any given generation or for any given", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh compatibility if you want a couple to be together shouldn't they have uh defined roles as it were uh certainly capable of sharing the other role for nothing more than empathy i mean it you know at least they understand what the other person is going through", "role": "user" }, { "content": "right", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh not being a tremendous cook i- i know what the burden of preparing a meal but i don't know what [vocalized-noise] it would have taken to make that meal taste any better out on the budget i give her that kind of deal", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter] yeah [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "so i- i wonder i don't have any argument or any problem with women changing a given role as long as there's something on the other side let's say of of any relationship to", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "to match that i mean you don't want two people doing the same thing in the relationship", "role": "user" }, { "content": "to pick up the slack yeah that's right yeah yeah you have to it has to balance out", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "so", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and i guess that's when you get into relationships and people people are attracted to people who compliment them most often i mean they say opposites attract and i'm not too sure i believe that very much but uh i think that people when they get into relationships you know if there's somebody who l[ike]- like if you got two people who hate to cook they're going to eat out all the time and that you know that's not that big a deal but you know if you get somebody who likes to cook and someone who doesn't like to cook then the person who doesn't who doesn't like to cook probably likes to do something else you know so i think that people end up i think that that women are more diverse now than they ever were as far as what they have learned and what they're capable of and and uh what they're willing to do and so i feel like it you know that men have gotten to be that way too they've gotten a little bit more relaxed in their thinking about uh women and you know what they expect of them so i think that you know it's a slow evolution but i think it's it's it's a good process i think it's it's working you know there are still people who men who believe that women should be home you know all day", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and cooking dinner [laughter] my husband's in the kitchen cooking dinner saying right on [laughter-right] [laughter-on]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah i i- i know one that's st[ill]- that way but that's about it i'm down to one friend that holds that position still i'm the only one home right now and i i have the kids clamoring for my attention now so i understand what that's like", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah [laughter] yes so i- i you know think that there are very few men who still feel that way and very few women who will tolerate a man who feels that way", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "now that's an interesting point yeah i mean once the expectations are", "role": "user" } ]
[ { "content": "so uh tell me about changes from say twenty years ago since you were an adult twenty years ago", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well let's see well we assume i was an adult twenty years ago [laughter] um", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "well you're you're able to you're able to uh vote and go to war and things like that so", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh yeah definitely able to go to war twenty years ago but not vote not vote that was one of the changes that came about in the last twenty years um yeah twenty years ago was nineteen seventy uh nineteen seventy i had been married two years", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh that's right that's one of the changes [laughter] uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um we had all the great civil rights legislation of nineteen sixty eight", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and uh around here on the uh east coast uh we were heavy into affirmative action", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": " yes", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and uh that was a uh a great shock for a lot of people", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and uh a great disappointment for some people like myself", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um i was gainfully employed by Safeway Stores Incorporated", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and uh trying desperately to uh get ahead with the company", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh the problem was that my hair was too long", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and uh that you weren't allowed to have a uh mustache or a beard and uh you know jeans just flat out weren't allowed unless you worked on night stock and", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh uh-huh uh-huh uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": " if you wanted to get ahead with the company well if you were a uh black female you were destined to be store manager in six to nine months if you were white male you're talking six years", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and that's basically where i ended up i uh i just flat out couldn't get a hold you know [vocalized-noise] get ahead with the company because they were dead in affirmative action um ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "on other fronts um", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and is the company now uh well represented uh demographically at the higher echelons did it work", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um i think so i- i i i stopped working for them in uh seventy eight seventy nine", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and uh it's i think they're they're like all companies well represented and uh you know everything seems to be fine i i've kind of lost touch with the company we had a falling out but uh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum um-hum uh-huh uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "as far as uh as their management goes um i'm not sure they're any any better off than they were were before management wise", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "but uh other changes um just people seem to be more outspoken now individually rather than collectively um back in the seventies we had uh a lot of uh protests against the war and uh bring our troops home and things were more organized", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and uh i've noticed that now more and more individual people are speaking out for their own rights rather than massing together", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "so there's less you think now there's less of a a social movement and more individual m[ovements]- lots of individual movements in a sense ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah i'm not sure if that was because you know eighties was like the uh the me decade [vocalized-noise] and uh everybody was into me and then we are getting back into us but um it it ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "the me decade uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "it's i've seen uh uh a great deal of change as far as um corporate responsibility and things um", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and people's response to that you know at first not trusting and now expecting more", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and what ab[out]- what about the last ten years that you've been aware", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "well that i've been aware of i've at least in my own circles i've been aware of an increasing from my generation i don't know if i can quite call myself a distinct generation from you but half generation off i guess um i've noticed uh a certain increase um pessimism with America no longer being sort of on top [vocalized-noise] i had the impression well i mean there was the quote unquote losing of the Vietnam war which was a blow and it was right around that time when i started becoming socially [vocalized-noise] you know a socially conscious adult and i realize that people of my age have no um no major success in the sense that uh you saw the passage of the Civil Rights Act and um major social change in that sense and i and all the changes that have happened in the last uh even during my adulthood have been more incremental they've been continual perhaps and good gains have been made but there hasn't been the same sort of fiery speeches of Martin Luther King or whatever that has really uh galvanized the population and there's just instead there's been sort of an increasing oh i don't know Japan bashing and things like that", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and uh a lot of i see among some of my friends and even more among some of my students who are you know maybe twenty a real sense of you know America's losing it", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yes", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and losing it in the competitive market and a real knowl[edge]- uh a lack of understanding how that could be and in the sense that how could America have gone from being number one to possibly being number two to you know our former enemies and things like that and um so i see i see a lot of uh a lot of pessimism growing um and at the same time i think there's there's there's a growing environmentalist movement and sense of corporate respons[ible]- increased corporate responsible towards uh you know environmental safety and things like that and that might potentially be sort of the civil right the equivalent of the Civil Rights Act in in the near future in terms of you know some real landmark bills passing and things like that such that you know people cause thing about civil rights is people take it for granted now i mean my generation doesn't can't rest on the the glow of having achieved civil rights because we were born into an assumption that you know yes there's still some racism but you know basically things are [vocalized-noise] the assumption things are basically kind of taken care of and there's a notion of fairness that um while still far from perfect is much more established i think ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yes [vocalized-noise] but even uh i think uh along the line of the uh goals of civil rights um", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "there always seems to be some prejudice to someone by anyone i mean you know [vocalized-noise]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh of course [laughter] it's human nature [laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "you know don't like the way you look don't like the way you dress don't like your hair don't you know it's just something that always sets people off you know you either like someone or you don't like someone or you're just completely indifferent ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and the problem is that ideally you they you know the world would like you to be completely indifferent so um but i- i i understand what you say about the environmental movement um it's it's been a long time coming um being a uh a very old hippie um [laughter] ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh yes [laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i mean you know if you had long hair in high school in the sixties you got labeled a hippie and you keep that image your whole life [laughter] [vocalized-noise] no matter what you do and i- i just ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh yeah yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i've seen a lot of changes i mean from the original earth day", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and um i'm heavily involved in you know my own personal recycling we recycle paper and cans here at work and you know i do the newspaper and cardboard and paper and", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh uh-huh uh-huh uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "you know all that stuff at home and i'm starting to see more and more recycling centers cropping up all over the place here on the east coast", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh right and that's a real change except it sort of brings back to the nineteen forties more than anything [laughter-else] [laughter] i mean all this recycling used to be in tact or not all of it but much of it did i mean recycling was a was a wartime thing", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter-yeah] like yeah and then they turned around and called them junkyards and started making profits off them after the war", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yes [laughter-yes]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and now we got to the point where the junkyards you've got to pay them to take something there so things have really changed a lot i think the uh the other part about uh America's decline i think has to do with", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh a perceived decline anyway yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah the perceived decline has to do with uh um the attitudes and the educational system uh i have children in in s[chool]- i have three children in school right now and i'm not impressed with the teachers that are teaching them uh i had when i was down in Dallas for two years i had uh my children come home from school with papers that were corrected by the teacher that had words spelled correctly marked wrong", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and words spelled wrong not marked as such", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and this person's teaching my children", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "you know i had a real problem with that", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah well i'd i'd say actually i mean as someone who's involved in education i'd say that maybe one of the changes is that the role of the teacher has incrementally gotten lower and lower value and society i mean relative pay which is a major way we value people has been poorer and poorer over the years uh you know that there's been cost of living increases but not quite in proportion to cost of living and you know it's just more and more uh [vocalized-noise] a real low income sort of job and very low prestige i mean there's that that old saying those who can do it and those who can't teach this is the way of let's make fun of the teachers those are the people who can't do anything and if you have that kind of social attitude it's", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter] yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "hard to get sufficient numbers of people who are going to overlook all of that work for lower pay work for low social prestige just because they care about good education", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and you get more and more people who would just end up there because it's uh it's the safety net of those of you know average intelligence or something they can always teach", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um i'm not sure if your familiar with the movement they have here in Maryland but they're trying to get a uh a uh a merit system here in Maryland rather than a uh tenure system", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "for all the you know elementary middle school and high schools", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "so that the teach", "role": "assistant" } ]
[ { "content": "hello ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "hello", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "hi uh my name's Nicole", "role": "user" }, { "content": "hi Nicole i'm Mary Ann", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh where are you Mary Ann", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh i'm in McKinney", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh you're [vocalized-noise] in Dallas [laughter] not very long distance [laughter] ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i [laughter-see] [laughter-okay] no not at all and yet long enough if we were calling back and forth it would be a toll call [laughter] ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter] it would yes it [laughter-would] okay are you uh do you know about the topic ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh if if i understood correctly it was what what changes we might uh suggest or whatever for the justice system is that [laughter] perhaps above my head", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah [vocalized-noise] uh justice system or and what we think about the judge uh changing it to so th[e]- the judge would do the conviction or no sentencing sentencing ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "sentencing and would all the jurors have to agree on okay that'd be a good place to start", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "okay all right i'm going to push one", "role": "user" }, { "content": "all right have you ever served on a on a jury trial", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yes one time one time but we found him innocent so uh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "was it was it a criminal", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yes it was this guy bit another guy's finger [laughter-off]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "okay oh oh [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "but he deserved it i probably would have bit his finger off too if he was trying to strangle me or beat me up you know if i could have gotten his hand in my mouth i'd have bit him just like this guy did he was scared he was a kid", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh my", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "you know and the guy was trying to beat him up this older teenager was shacking up with this guy's ex-wife or some[thing]- they were uh uh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "huh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "they were really in a mess and there were children involved and it was just terrible but i didn't think anybody you know they all deserved to go to jail [laughter-not] just the one guy you know", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh it really does sound like it was a self defense kind of thing", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "it really was he was trying to beat him up so you know we found him innocent so i really don't know what happens after you find them guilty i thought that the judge did do the sentencing", "role": "user" }, { "content": "no i served on on both a criminal and a a civil um jury and in my criminal trial he pled guilty um to the first to to kidnapping and so we went through the the second part of the trial because_1 in Texas there are two parts first of all to find if they are guilty or innocent he already said he's guilty so then then we go through the trial to determine what uh punishment should be meted out", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "so we still went through three days of of uh testimony and so forth and and witnesses saying oh he's an upstanding young man just weak and was led by another guy and so forth so we were the ones that that came up with the sentence and the judge gave us some parameters and said you know according to the law it can be no more or no le[ss]- uh no more or less than and he gave th[e]- the number of years and he said it would also include a a possible fine up to ten thousand dollars and and we had that's that took us six hours just to agree on what we thought was appropriate for this young man", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "good grief that would be hard to do you know", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um it wasn't the easiest thing i've done but nor nor was it hard to to us the young man had kind of taken care of it when he said he was guilty so we did not ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "we didn't have to struggle at all with that it was now what's fitting and and we'd gone through you know all that so i- i don't know i thought that was easier than than trying to decide his guilt or innocence yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah whether he's guilty or n[ot]- yeah that's true", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i- i probably would not mind letting the judge do the sentencing as long as the jury of of peers were determining guilt or innocence for one thing we didn't know that the others involved in the trial had uh or i- or i mean had [vocalized-noise] involved in the crime had already come up for trial we couldn't know what had come of their uh sentencing ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and and we couldn't know that until after we'd made our findings so it turned out we had done about what the other juries had done and so it you know we felt a little better but i think if that could be in the hands of of someone who knew the law and could be privy to that information seems like it would be fairer", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "is it different in different states do you know", "role": "user" }, { "content": "since it's state uh laws yes", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "because_1 i know on some at times the news you know and they say the judge gives the sentencing and so that's what i guess i thought it was that way everywhere being as i hadn't been all the way through you know anything like that", "role": "user" }, { "content": "it n[ow]- now it may be on some Federal Laws you know i[t]- it this was a [laughter-we] were dealing with uh with the state laws not necessarily [vocalized-noise] not necessarily federal that may have something to do with it and it may be too that if it were um a capital crime", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "state yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh capital murder or something like that that that it may be different ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah well i wouldn't oh that would be hard", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yes it would", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "it would be hard to sentence somebody to death if you weren't really really really sure you'd have to be really really really sure that he did it i mean really sure", "role": "user" }, { "content": "w[ell]- i had a friend who sat in on a or who was on a jury recently for a murder but the man was not being tried for capital murder and so that was not even an option uh the death penalty was not an option so and in in this case everyone on the jury felt that it should have [laughter-been] and they were very convinced the man had no redeeming uh qualities and couldn't be rehabilitated and they were they were really upset that he was getting off so lightly for the heinous crime that he had been involved in", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i'm real glad that i don't i [laughter] i [laughter-don't] work in that kind of a uh a back[ground]- background i'll take my job any day", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter] yeah think of the pressures", "role": "user" }, { "content": "you know [laughter] i don't work with perfect people anymore than anybody else does but i can handle the imperfections that i'm around i- i could not work in the in the uh criminal area for very long as a as a police officer as uh someone who works for the court system or whatever", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "so anyway back to the original question i really think i if if we were still allowed to choose guilt or innocence", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "w[ell]-", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i'd be more than happy to let the judge determine the uh the sentencing", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "the sentencing yeah i- ag[ree]- i agree with you right i do agree with you i- i figure that it's been a couple of years now since i've served now so i'm i've been looking lately for mine [laughter] it's about time for me to get called up down there again", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter] um", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "so i enjoy doing it", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i do too", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "as long as i get paid [laughter-well] now before i worked for TI and i didn't get d[ays]- uh time off for jury duty you know it was difficult", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter] oh i bet", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "because there are a lot of places that don't give you ti[me]- i mean they give you the time but not the pay", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i see okay", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "so you know you lose a day's pay and you [vocalized-noise] well you make eight dollars or [laughter-whatever] [laughter-it] [laughter-is] [laughter-you] know [laughter] ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "big [laughter-deal] oh you make eight dollars now in Dallas County huh it's only seven fifty here in Collin [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i think it's eight it might i- i don't remember", "role": "user" }, { "content": "it probably is which is about what it costs you to park your car right", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "well they send you a free bus ticket and i use it", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh do they oh okay", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "so you know i come out pretty good on it i mean i ge[t]- and plus my TI money i come out real good on it [laughter-now] the last one i served on i was working at TI and so i got time off for it but i was working third shift and that made it a little difficult", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah oh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "to decide", "role": "user" }, { "content": "y[eah]- i- i can see how that would be difficult", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah to decide which day to take off and you know do you take off th[e]- day", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter] before you go oh that would be tough", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "after you go or before you [laughter-go] so it was tough so but anyway well i don't have much more to say about it", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um what about the other suggestion that they had that uh about the ju[ry]- all the jury agreeing on the senten[cing]- do you feel that that is a requirement", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i think if anybody has a doubt you need to yeah i do feel that yes i really do", "role": "user" }, { "content": "that the[re]- there should be a[greement]- agreement", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i think i do too", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "because someone might see something that you don't see i mean you know they may have they may have picked up on something that gave them that doubt that", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "you know yeah i really think everybody needs to agree", "role": "user" }, { "content": "it's it's it's so easy anyway for everybody to just kind of become a yes man and get carried up along with the emotions and so if there's somebody who's strong enough to stand up with a specific doubt i would a whole lot rather go through the expense of another trial because of a hung jury than that a justice not be meted out correctly", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": " so", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": " i agree with boy it's really easy [laughter] to discuss something when you both agree [laughter]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter-yeah] well you know that i mean i you have to agree on this almost i would think can't imagine not agreeing that everybody should agree on a jury i- i- i don't know on ou[rs]- when we we all really agreed on this did you all have any disagreements when you were doing the sentencing", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well it took us six hours to reach agreement yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i can't remember how many it didn't take us but an hour i think or an hour and a half we were all pretty i think we had one man in there that uh wanted to find him guilty because he kept saying he did it then we kept saying he did it [laughter-but] the other guy you know y[eah]- we had to convince him that um you know that yes he did it but he wasn't guilty he didn't need to go to jail for doing it that was you know he did it he admitted he [vocalized-noise] that he bit that guys finger but he did it in self defense so you know we just didn't feel that he needed ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah apparently you all were successful in uh convincing him at last", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yes finally we di[d]- it didn't take", "role": "user" } ]
[ { "content": "okay", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well um discussing air pollution today i guess", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um uh well [laughter] give me your first impressions", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh i don't kn[ow]- [laughter-there's] a lot of air [laughter-pollution]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um i think industries and companies provide a lot of it", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and with uh i guess with the oil burning over in Kuwait and stuff that would have a lot of air pollution in it", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh puts a whole yeah gets a whole new picture to what [laughter] real air pollution can be but uh that stuff going on over there wha[t]- what uh what part of Pennsylvania are you in", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um i'm north of Pittsburgh so", "role": "user" }, { "content": "o[kay]- okay okay so it's i[t's]- it's amazing too you know y[ou]- with that with the oil wells burning over there that's that's the exact same stuff that's coming out of cars every day just in uh just in a little different grade i guess", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter-yeah]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "but uh in Dallas we've got we've just uh brought in a whole new set of uh requirements on inspections and things like that for cars because uh people just don't use mass transit and stuff in Dallas everybody loves their car and you see an awful lot of uh one person vehicles on the road on during rush hours that seems to be our biggest problem down here um you know there's uh there's a lot of industry around but uh it's not it's any pollution that industry's dumping around here is not going into the air it's typically water [laughter] type situation", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah um we have a couple we have like a steel mill and a couple refineries and stuff and i know there's a lot of air pollution going in there and like they they get fined whenever they do the air pollution but", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "the fine is nothing you know it's like nothing to them", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah it's it's yeah like like two hours of output or something like that yeah that's true that's true", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah yeah um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah i uh i grew up in South Dakota so i was never [laughter] i was never exposed to anything of of the of the sort um", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "there were always the EPA people and what not were always telling us that uh farm chemicals and what not were destroying our water system and all that but we just we just never saw the results uh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "there was there was dust in the air during uh planting seasons and what not but uh that that was all we ever saw and then five years ago i i moved to Dallas and i suddenly start to understand what uh burning eyes uh and all that stuff is about that i'd always heard about it uh it's it gets it's real depressing um in the morning sometime uh just y[ou]- you can tell if it's a good day or a bad day by uh how far out from downtown uh y[ou]- you can be on the road and still not see it", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh my God [laughter]", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[laughter-and] uh you know i mean it's not uh i don't think Dallas is considered uh a a real bad place for for air pollution but you you can tell you can tell the differences in the days when it's when the haze is kind of yellowish gray instead of just being a a foggy misty color", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and uh it it's a little it's a little disappointing sometimes that you start to realize what you're breathing", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "uh yeah but i don't know what they can do to really prevent it you know like how c[an]- what can they [laughter-do] about the oil burning over in Kuwait what you know i mean they fine the the industries but you know that doesn't seem to stop them there i don't know what else they can do", "role": "user" }, { "content": "right right i[t's]- it's that there really isn't a whole lot i[t's]- it's one of those uh it's one of those things that if they do a little bit and uh and e[very]- you know e[very]- every little bit does help i i do believe that um but i also believe that uh the earth is is a kind of a self-regulating system and uh it will clean itself up eventually it the whole idea is not to not to push the limit too hard i guess l[et]- let the you know let the natural natural systems take care of the problem as much as possible", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum yeah i i yeah i just don't understand you know what else anyone can do about it i don't think it's something that people really think about either", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "you know it's i mean i it it should probably be a big issue you know because_1 i[t's]- it's doing a lot of damage but i it's something you know i don't think many people really think about it because it's nothing they i don't think we really have too much control over it", "role": "user" }, { "content": "right and it's one of those things i[t's]- i[t's]- it's so hard to measure uh wh[at]- what what the damage is it's it's kind of like uh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh i guess it's kind of like kind of like cigarette smoking you know i[t]- it it it could go on for years and years until they they s[tart]- start to see some results and people can actually actually say yeah it's it's it's doing it's doing some damage and and something's got to be done", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um there's you know there's a lot of things like that i[t]- it it you can uh you can pound on something for a long time before it finally breaks but until it breaks you don't really know that there [laughter] you were doing anything to it", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah exactly", "role": "user" }, { "content": "but uh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "well i really don't [laughter-know] too much else about it", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah well that's it you know i i i think we both agree it's it's one of those deals that uh i just think there's a lot of other problems right now and uh we've done a lot to take care of it", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and uh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah we have tried i mean you know and um i i know where you know where a couple of the mills that have i kn[ow]- i know they put things on their stacks you know to filter the smoke and do all kinds of things but i mean every now and then it breaks you know and and you just got smoke going out into the air for a day or two till you can get it fixed and stuff", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh sure sure", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "so you know it's something we we have tried to help but yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "oh there's no doubt about i don't know if you if you ever happened to see uh some of the like Twenty Twenty and what not about uh Romania and East Germany when they first got pictures out of there about how some of their uh systems had been running for twenty and thirty years", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "and uh you know they absolutely no regulations no controls whatsoever and they had destroyed entire forests and what not just because the air was so polluted that's that's the kind of things that uh you don't see in this country and that's that's why i think that you know i[t's]- it's i don't know if you can ever do enough but uh i think it's all relative to the to the time and place and i think right now it's it's it's pretty much under control", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[laughter-yeah] okay well um-hum it's been nice talking to you ye[ah]- okay bye-bye ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "all righty well you bet bye", "role": "assistant" } ]
[ { "content": " feel about this ", "role": "user" }, { "content": "well i've i've seen all kinds of carnage and i'm very much in favor of laws to restrict the access to guns", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i am too", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um i you know i cannot understand the the argument on the other side", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah i- i hear the argument of um you don't have anything to protect yourself with and and all this that i just i don't know i don't know there's a guy at work you know that's trying to get a gun for his wife because she works in a divorce type position and she's scared that somebody might turn on her sometime and", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i'm like why do people need guns in their desk at work i just don't understand that", "role": "user" }, { "content": "i don't understand either now there prob[ably]- there probably are cases of certain occupations certain actually certain individuals in certain occupations who would", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "but right um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "for whom that may be legitimate uh ", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "right", "role": "user" }, { "content": "but there whole countries where guns are banned uh i think in the United Kingdom and then in Japan", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "where the homicide rates are far far lower than the United States i don't see how it possibly", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "makes sense for us to have all these guns lying about", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh i don't either and you can go to a store and pick out which one you want and just you know it's it's weird to have something like that you know i've never been a hunter or been around anything like that that um there have been guns in the house or anything like that and to see those kids having you know like you see on the news these kids like are you in Dallas or", "role": "user" }, { "content": "um-hum no i'm in Washington", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "in Washington okay well we just had an acci[dent]- accident here that um a fifteen year old got into a f[ight]- uh you know like you always do in school high school you know you always had little fights with kids", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah um-hum yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "well he had a fight with a kid and his older brother who's eighteen came to the school and shot the kid", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yes", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and killed him and i'm like what in the [laughter-world] are these kids and then they confiscated twenty three guns from that high school out of lockers and it's like i just can't understand why these kids have guns", "role": "user" }, { "content": "that's a[mazing]- that's amazing yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "it's just awful", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah yeah well it happens a lot around here too um in fact maybe even worse in terms of frequency", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "to see something like that does it uh-huh", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh drive by shootings in high schools are you know", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah we had quite a few drive by shootings recently with buses of um you know that public transportation buses and like i think two people were killed during that when they were having just kids were driving by and shooting out the windows", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yes yeah yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and uh and then we had that killing you know in Killeen i don't know if you heard about that", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yes i uh everybody heard about that", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah [laughter-i] [laughter-think] [laughter-so] and that happened and that was something else and", "role": "user" }, { "content": " yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "so", "role": "user" }, { "content": " so i'm i'm i think on the scale at the one end you know", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "user" }, { "content": "uh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "i'd i'd be close to the eight nine and ten area", "role": "user" }, { "content": "w[ait]- wait i thought i- i eight nine ten was no restrictions", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh i thought ten was the be[st]- oh i'm sorry", "role": "user" }, { "content": "whatever whatever we're down at the same end whatever end that is", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "[vocalized-noise] heavy duty restrictions [laughter] that's i feel in favor for because you just can't be handing these things out to anybody", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and and you're getting them_1 sold to people and then they're getting into the wrong hands", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah would you somehow get them away from those who already have them_1", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "what's that", "role": "user" }, { "content": "would you somehow disarm those who are already armed", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um yes", "role": "user" }, { "content": "how would you do that", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um do y[ou]- you know do they don't they have records of the people who own the um guns that were bought isn't there", "role": "user" }, { "content": "in many cases not uh because many cases they're [vocalized-noise]", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah i know it", "role": "user" }, { "content": " they're stolen um", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "right underground type", "role": "user" }, { "content": "[vocalized-noise] i- i have no idea what the statistics are on that but um", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "underground type uh selling of guns", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah i don't know how you know it's gonna it's gonna have to happen [laughter-sometime] but it right now there hasn't been a way", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah yeah i don't i don't [vocalized-noise] know this for a absolute fact but i have the suspicion that the gun industry that manufactures", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum", "role": "user" }, { "content": "these things and also those who dealers who sell them are a major force behind the NRA and all these campaigns that that stir people up and try to get them to uh", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "um-hum to uh not ban them", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah t[o]- t[o]- to right to oppose them_1", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "right", "role": "user" }, { "content": "it [vocalized-noise] because_1 they have an economic reason over and above whatever their their private preferences are", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "oh sure um-hum yeah it it's a tough thing", "role": "user" }, { "content": "until the thing has to be won on an economic ground too", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "right", "role": "user" }, { "content": "so there has to be some way to compensate those who lose and um", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "so that they don't keep you know saying don't ban so um", "role": "user" }, { "content": "yeah right", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "yeah it's it's tough i don't know what they're gonna do and you know i there's got to be a way to get them_1 out of the hands of and plus for them to when they do have them_1 to you know they keep them_1 in these areas where their kids can get to them_1 and and hurt so you know and they're young enough they don't even know what they're playing with they're playing with something they saw on TV", "role": "user" }, { "content": "if um-hum", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and uh you know it's it's not safe at all for um the kids in the home even because_1 they don't keep them_1 under lock and key anyway they keep them_1 in their top drawer or", "role": "user" }, { "content": "right", "role": "assistant" }, { "content": "and then they say well if we unload them then how are we gonna have time to load them_1", "role": "user" } ]
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